Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5571 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 11:41:49 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 11:41:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 32269 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 10:44:51 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 10:44:51 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11ByKU-0002yg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 11:31:26 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.8.44]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11ByKR-0002yZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 1999 11:31:24 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA11233 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:37:19 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990804123234.080f9334@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:32:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: eclipse In-reply-to: <000401bedde3$c5173620$7844fad4@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: At 19:50 3/08/99 +0100, G8AFN wrote: >Is anyone planning any propagation experiments on136kHz or thereabouts >during the eclipse next week. > >I have not yet decided whether to study it, visually or by radio techniques. >Also if I stay at home (98.5% of totallity) or go receiving portable in the >far southwest. > >I know that the RSGB is involved in measurements on many bands but am not >sure what exactly is proposed for 136kHz. > >Do we know what is likely to happen on our band, are the changes expected >to be measurable, what is worth measuring and over what period of time. > >I look forward to your comments and advice I received following information from Jean-Jacques Delcourt, ON5PG: I am working professionaly on the D layer and prepare a doctorate on this subject at the Belgian Royal Meteorological Institute. I monitor only time keeping carriers in amplitude,phase and polarization below 100 KHz. The best results are from GBR on formelly 16 KHz, but in fact around 15,750 KHz which is unfortunately frequency modulated. During dusk and dawn, you can see beautiful effects linked with the sun rise, the rising of XRays flux and modification of the chemistry of the mesosphere. Correlations are made with the XR flux monitoring by GOES satellites. The XR are generated in the sun corona and one of the interests of the aug.11 eclipse is that during approximatively 2 min, the most part of the corona will be obliterated. Phase monitoring is very difficult and requires very stable reference oscillators in the range of 10exp-10 on a day. At the lab, I am using a GPS reference with phase locked loop. I think that the best way during the eclipse day is testing a circuit where the totality path is the middle of the circuit. An other way is monitoring 24h on 24h during 3 days [the eclipse day is the second] a carrier with a constant amplitude , the greatest possible..... The 5 receivers I use are [all home made] of direct amplification type with crystal filters and bandwidth of 1 Hz ; but I have the greatest interest for VLF commercial RX . Data sheets and dealers addresses with prices are welcome. The antennas are of the loop type [20 spires with the appropriate tuning capacitor] mounted inside a water pipe loop to make it inflexible and easy to direct. The frequency range of interest is below 200kHz, preferable even below 100kHz as effects seems to be more explicit on lower frequencies. A software team from the Belgien amateur radio society UBA has developed a programme that can be used to register the fieldstrength measurements. All you need is a PC with Win95/98 and a soundcard. The audio output of the receiver is fed to the input of the soundcard. More information of about this programme and about the eclipse-experiment in general can be found at the UBA website http://www.uba.be/ The software can be requested by sending an e-mail to jacques.debouche@euronet.be with as subject: ECLIPSE PROGRAM REQUEST. The required information and calibration-procedure is included. All data can be sent to : John Devoldere, ON4UN Poelstraat 215 B-9820 Merelbeke Belgium or via e-mail to john.devoldere@village.uunet.be A special award will be issued to everybody who cooperates with the experiment and sends in his/her set of data. 73, Rik ON7YD Rik Strobbe ON7YD rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be Villadreef 14 B-3128 Baal BELGIUM (JO20IX)