Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11230 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 08:14:01 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 08:14:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 17186 invoked from network); 14 Aug 1999 05:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Aug 1999 05:55:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11FWUU-0001HQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:36:26 +0100 Received: from dh-img-1.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.131] helo=hpdmgaaa.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11FWUT-0001HL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:36:25 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmgaaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.8) id BAA26279 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:36:22 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:35:56 -0400 From: "Dave Sergeant" Subject: LF: Various To: "rsgb_lf_group" Message-ID: <199908140136_MC2-8102-D360@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: >From Dave G3YMC No radio reports on the eclipse, but just to say that the visual eclipse in Salzburg was superb (2mins 6secs of totality in (surprisingly) an absolutely cloudless sky). No pictures I have seen on TV or elsewhere do justice to the sight. Last Tuesday I had a pleasant evening with Heinz OE5EEP and he showed me his 136 transmitter (with replaced FETs!). It is encouraging that there is growing interest in 136 in Austria and it appears there will be soon other stations active. Good luck with your transmit loop Heinz! I note with interest the mails from Dave ZL3FJ on loop resistances. His estimated resistance of several ohms does not tie in with the experience with my loop. I have not measured the true RF resistance, but a good feel of how it compares to the DC resistance can be found by the values of matching components required in my capacitive match. The loop has a DC resistance of 0.1ohms - however the capacitor values indicate an RF resistance of possibly 0.3ohms, no more. If it had the RF resistance Dave suggests the Q and hence the bandwidth of the loop would be much poorer - bandwidth is around 200Hz. I will try to do some more measurements and calculations to quantify the resistance better, but it is my feeling that at 136 skin effect is an insignificant effect. Possibly it is more significant at 180kHz. 73s Dave G3YMC sergeantd@compuserve.com