Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14873 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 05:08:05 +0100 Received: from cask.force9.net (195.166.128.29) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 05:08:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 4164 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 04:08:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 04:08:07 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11KD6Y-0007Hd-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:55:06 +0100 Received: from mb06.swip.net ([193.12.122.210]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11KD6W-0007HY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:55:04 +0100 Received: from win95 (dialup244-3-47.swipnet.se [130.244.244.175]) by mb06.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15534 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:55:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002301bef040$442b1580$aff4f482@win95.swipnet.se> From: "Christer Andersson" To: "RSGB LF group" Subject: LF: Re: Multiple Tuned Vertical Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:57:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: (from rec.amateur.radio.antenna) From: Reg Edwards Subject: Ah wuz rung ! Date: den 26 augusti 1999 22:33 I agree with Mr Dagaas's reason for efficiency of the 6-mast system being 6 times that of an individual mast. I would like to describe the operation in a little more detail. (1) Each mast has its own set of ground radials. Whether the radial wires of adjacent masts are in contact with each other is of no consequence because no current flows across the junction. (2) The masts are separated by a distance three times their height. This ensures the ground system under each mast provides a ground connection for that mast only. There is no sharing of ground connections between masts. (3) The radiation resistance of an individual mast when considered in isolation is dependent on mast height in wavelengths as affected by its share of the capacitance hat. When F = 16.67 KHz, wavelength = 18 kilo-metres. (11 miles). I estimate the radiation resistance to be approximately 0.05 ohms. (4) If the feedpoint resistance of one mast is 2.50 ohms then its radiating efficiency is 1.96 percent. The input (loss) resistance of one set of radials must be 2.45 ohms. (5) When all 6 masts are parallelled at the top via the top-capacitance wires, each mast draws 1/6th of the total current. For the same total power input the loss in an individual ground system falls to 1/36th of the previously value. So the total loss in all six ground systems is only 1/6th of the previous total loss. (6) The masts are spaced apart by only 0.0217 wavelengths. The distance between the two outermost masts is 0.108 wavelengths. So for practical purposes the masts are all in phase with each other and behave as one vertical mast. So the radiation resistance remains as before, 0.05 ohms. System efficiency is 6 times greater = 12 percent approx. (7) As a bonus, the theoretical feedpoint resistance of one of the masts is increased by 36 times = 88 ohms. But nothing is perfect. The masts are not all exactly in phase with each other. The ground systems are not entirely independent of each other. And so the actual feedpoint resistance is 20 ohms it seems. Question :- Is a conjugate match to the generator appropriate in this case ? So my original statement that multiple antenna conductors do not increase efficiency was wrong. Nevertheless, efficiency increases only when each conductor has its own completely independent ground system by spacing them well apart. But the conductors must not further apart than a small fraction of a wavelength. These two simultaneous conditions cannot be achieved unless efficiency is very low even after the improvement has been obtained. As it is at SAQ. But the design engineer of SAQ deserves our admiration. He certainly understood exactly what he was doing 77 years back. And all he had was a slide rule. Reg, G4FGQ.