Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26640 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 09:37:27 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 09:37:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 18641 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 08:40:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 08:40:11 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 119P5o-0000S9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:29:40 +0100 Received: from mserv1c.u-net.net ([195.102.240.33]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 119P5m-0000S3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:29:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #34) id 119Pzj-0002xo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:27:28 +0000 Received: from miked.rsgbhq [192.168.2.30] by rsgb.org.uk [192.168.2.132] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:26:13 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Organization: Radio Society of Great Britain To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:28:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Ground systems In-reply-to: <003f01bed861$bd4510c0$0600a8c0@prstesv1.prestel.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: G3YXM wrote: > In my experience, as in all amateur installations, you have to experiment to > get the best result! At home in the city, on good clay soil, earth stakes > didn't seem to help much but radials did. The greatest help was to bond all > the incoming service pipes, water, gas and mains earth (all underground) > together. > In Scotland the best results were obtained by running as many surface wires > as I could to wire fences around the area, earth stakes achieved absolutely > nothing in the poor soil. My experience is that earth stakes outperformed my insulated and buried radial system by a long way. The most successful stake is about 10m away from the base of the vertical, slightly lower than it (sloping site) and away from the horizontal section of the inverted- L. A wire to a buried water tank under the horizontal section does nothing. I agree with whoever said that it is possible to get a real improvement, even if the current does not alter - useful to monitor the received signal when adding new radials. By contrast, when operating portable in south-west Wales at a site 0.5km from the sea and beside a river, I found that a single 100m insulated radial lying on the ground worked much better than any earth stakes I could bury. Obviously when portable it is possible to get more wire out than at a suburban location. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm