Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12877 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1999 16:34:42 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 16:34:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1999 15:35:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 15:35:14 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10zids-00030j-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:20:48 +0100 Received: from [195.102.240.137] (helo=mserv1b.u-net.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10zidr-00030e-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:20:47 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10zicv-00079I-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:19:49 +0100 Received: from miked.rsgbhq [192.168.2.30] by rsgb.org.uk [192.168.2.132] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:04:45 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Organization: Radio Society of Great Britain To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:06:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: field strength measurement again In-reply-to: <004901bec34a$b3099b20$895eac3e@default> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: G3NYK wrote: > To Mike yes I do use the steady signals of the 'beacons' for tests, but what > does S9 mean?? Its a strong signal but is it 10uV/m or 1V/m. Most of the > radios I have have S-meter sensitivity controls so you can set S9 at > whatever you like! I'd love to tell you by how much you have improved your > system. OK, I agree this is very crude system, especially as some rigs, like my IC-706, have black squares representing each S-point or each '10dB' over 9. So there's no prospect of getting real numbers out of it - unless properly calibrated - but it can help as a very crude measure, especially as you know the signals you are checking are not only in the far field but have some sky-wave, too. There's no substitute for doing it right. Of course, a nice compromise is the Selective Level Measuring Set - when I think of the SLMSs and other test gear (capacitance bridge, 1Hz resolution VFOs, LF fundamental crystals) which I put in a skip when I worked for a telecom company a few years ago, it makes me cry!! Thanks for the report on the main signal and the spacer. > Just a thought as you are using a mixer source...have you tried keying one > crystal oscillator? I find that quite clean and stable. It might be an easy > mod. Actually, I still use a straight Clapp VFO and a two-transistor Buffer/Keying stage. I like the two-crystal (XO +VXO) system but haven't got round to building one yet - have tended to concentrate on the size of the signal. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm