Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26625 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 11:05:36 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 11:05:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 26170 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 10:08:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 10:08:17 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 1193yd-0007ny-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:56:51 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.8.44]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 1193yb-0007nm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:56:49 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA09445 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:02:37 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990727115808.2d4fe51e@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:58:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Re: PA0SE and LF sourcebook In-reply-to: <002a01bed80f$9a23d060$2296b38f@w8k3f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: At 10:58 27/07/99 +0200, PA0SE wrote: >Even on the amateur HF-bands the noise level is almost always over S2 or so. >At my location on 80 m daytime noise is about S4. On 40 m a bit lower. > >I suspect that the noise on 136 kHz at my QTH is above avarage. I think it >must be lower at quite a few stations I have worked. At my QTH noise is rather low, with the 'big' TX-antenna that is located about 30m from the house. Few weeks ago I tested a small loopantenna indoor and noise was awfull. The 1 meter loop produced about 6dB more noise level than the big outdoor vertical and signals were about 20dB down on the indoor loop. So the overall S/N ratio was at about 26dB worse. Placing the loop in the back yard at about 25m from the house resulted in the same S/N on loop and vertical. My tip : try to place your RX-antenna as far away as possible from 'civilisation' and use good coax between antenna and RX. I have bad experience with the shielding of cheap RG58. 73, Rik Rik Strobbe ON7YD rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be Villadreef 14 B-3128 Baal BELGIUM (JO20IX)