Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11675 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 12:20:22 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 12:20:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 20690 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 11:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 11:22:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 117dEc-0004Ie-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:26 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from ah-img-2.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.153] helo=hpamgaab.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 117dEa-0004IZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:11:25 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaab.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.5) id HAA11868 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:11:23 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:09:53 -0400 From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" Subject: LF: Re: Radials and Trees To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199907230710_MC2-7E0D-51E4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: Peter, DF3LP wrote: >I got the best results from buried non-insulated ground wires with stokes at far ends.< I have followed Peter's advise recently and used a 2.4m ground-rod, washed down in the previously described way wish a water-hose and high pressure (reminds me of my QRL, I am working as a drilling engineer in the petroleum industry, we do the same thing on a bigger scale, can you imagine: a 20.000 ft deep ground rod ...). I just buried the radial (20m of highly corrosion resistant wire, also from the petroleum industry, they use it to lower measurement instruments into the borehole) 5 to 10 cm but improved my losses from 100 Ohm down to about 80 Ohms. There is plenty of wire left (and some more ground rods) so I hope to further reduce my losses. But I had another observation regarding leaves: after being dry for weeks, we suddenly had rain yesterday. My losses suddenly rose dramatically, until I removed one of the top-loads of my umbrella-antenna from the trees. Now I am back to my previous antenna current again. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)