Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6974 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 12:19:54 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 12:19:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 16218 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 11:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 11:22:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 117Gf6-0002Hh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:05:16 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from dh-img-1.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.131] helo=hpdmgaaa.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 117Gf5-0002Hb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:05:15 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmgaaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.5) id HAA09511 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:05:14 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:04:51 -0400 From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" Subject: LF: Re: Re: A help with rx sensitivity ?? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199907220705_MC2-7DE0-39E0@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: Dick, PA0SE wrote: >I am a bit amazed that the signal is "only" -33 dBm because at my QTH the >signal has exactly the same strength but I am 500 km from DCF39! >I use a Wandell & Goltermann PSM-5 Pegelmessplatz. Hello Dick, well, preparing my db/dbm/uV/S-unit chart yesterday I thought about those units and I think that I have to correct my DCF39 report. The manual of my MV61 Pegelmesser says, the reading is in dB (not dBm), referring to a voltage of 0.775 V being 0 dB. That means, that, if I compare my -33 dB (0.775 V/ 75 Ohm) are -23 dBm(75), we already got 10 dB of the missing 18 dB. The rest could well be my higher total losses, that are currently in the range of 80 Ohms (I got them down from 100 Ohm with a buried 20m radial and a 2.4m long ground rod). Additionaly to that I have a 4m long ground rod plus the central heating and waterpipe system connected together, but there still is some room for more radials (and I still got plenty of wire!). I hope that I am right with my dB report, I got confused myself with all those different units (and being a poor petroleum and drilling engineer I have no professional link to our hobby ;-) Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)