Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1523 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 21:18:18 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 21:18:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 27497 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:20:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:20:31 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 1172dO-0004Cg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:06:34 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 1172dN-0004Cb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:06:34 +0100 Received: from [62.172.218.149] (helo=default) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 1172dJ-0005uU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:06:30 +0100 Message-ID: <003b01bed3b4$4963bdc0$95daac3e@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: DCF39 and receiver sensitivity Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:02:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: Thanks for the comments on my suggestion. I think there is a slight misunderstanding, due to Dick's fine work on absolute field strength measurement. I was not suggesting that we could get any measurement of DCF39 field strength by this means. I was suggesting that we could set up a comparison of receiver sensitivities, using DCF39 as a reasonably constant source (for details of how constant see Dick's latest posting), that is available to everyone in Europe whatever their receiver set-up is. What I was aiming at was avoiding people like Alain listening on 136 hearing nothing and assuming there is no activity, when in fact it is their receiver/aerial capability which is their problem. I don't expect it to be quite as much use to the experienced operators who have their regular contacts to provide their data. Also the interest initially is not in 3-4dB changes more probably 20-30dB (I suspect that is my deficit at the moment) I take Wolf's point that the aerial could be improved, as his was, and the DCF39 signal reduced. I wonder whether this might be less of a problem at greater distances from the transmitter. Wolf is so close he can probably hear the operator breathing Hi. I look forward to seeing the 'professional' measurements posted to a web site soon? (please!) 73 de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com