Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27425 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 00:25:02 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 00:25:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 17272 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 23:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 23:27:12 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 116j5D-0003fX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:13:59 +0100 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.81]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 116j5B-0003fR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:13:57 +0100 Received: from [195.171.238.110] (helo=default) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 116j59-0006Mp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:13:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bed305$4e4e3cc0$6eeeabc3@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: A help with rx sensitivity ?? Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:09:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: Mike G3XDV, mentioned using DCF39 as a standard signal for comparing aerial performance, in a previous exchange which culminated in the fascinating article and results reported by Dick PA0SE. This has just surfaced again for me as I have had another packet contact with F5MLP. As you may remember he has erected a 300m wire in anticipation of getting a permit for 136. He is disappointed in its performance, and has sent a bull round the packet network asking for other stations reading of the strength of DCF39. It occurs to me that this is a fairly meaningless quest unless the stations replying are really 'switched-on' to LF aerial tuning and performance. It also occurs to me that a definitive list of measurements on the station from different locations might form a useful guide to newcommer's to the band as well as lazy old ones like me!) I don't want to clog the reflector with what many might regard as junk, so I am suggesting that I am willing to collect and collate (via e-mail to my personal address below) any reports that you would like to send to me direct. As a guide may I suggest :- Call Locator Aerial Receiver (S-meter ) DCF39 DCF39 noise level Calibration) (day) (after dark) (quiet day) There is a lot of room for discussion on what is important and what is not, but maybe this could serve as a basis to collect some guidance data. I know we think that there is not much difference in the day and night signal from the station, but does everybody find it so? As for the s-meter calibration I am thinking of something like 'S-9 = 50uV' or something similar. If the formula that Dick refers to does work we should be able to work out the field strength at any location in the reception area of DCF39. Qualifying comments accepted, if you care to add them. When I have collected a reasonable number of reports I will post the results as a digest to the reflector for all to see. I hope you will see this as a worthwhile exercise and deluge me with reports! 73 de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com