Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26003 invoked from network); 3 Jun 1999 16:41:34 +0100 Received: from magnet.plus.net.uk (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 1999 16:41:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 10552 invoked from network); 3 Jun 1999 15:45:42 -0000 Received: from punt.unica.co.uk (194.75.183.60) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 3 Jun 1999 15:45:42 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by punt.unica.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) id 10pZcX-0002vr-01; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:41:29 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01521 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:41:50 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA01517 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:41:48 GMT Received: from ah-img-2.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.153] helo=hpamgaab.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10pZr4-0001CF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:56:30 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaab.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.4) id LAA12876 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:38:55 -0400 From: "Howard Aspinall" <100646.144@compuserve.com> Subject: LF: Noise problems To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199906031140_MC2-780F-88E2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org John, It sounds like it could be a power distribution problem, possibly an arcing insulator or even a transformer, though insulator problems are often affected by the type of weather (ie) dry, damp or wet. Having once been in the electricity supply industry my recollection is that although procedure now differs from company to company, in general their stance with radio amateurs is that if the amateur can identify the source of the problem such as the relevant tower or pole, they will effect remedial work. Otherwise you might have to wait until the problem turns into a failure, or it is found during planned maintenance. Power companies did and still might operate a planned helicopter line checking procedure following hv o/h lines with special detectors to identify hot spots/arcs etc. Of course if you could ascertain there are problems with reception to "protected services" such as bc, pmr or emergency, the local RIS would probably act. Your best bet there might be with reception problems with lw Radio4 if you could show people were having them. Once my lw R4 reception was completely wiped out by a switch mode psu without adequate input suppression causing noise to be radiated along the mains wiring to everyone being fed from that particular substation. Switch mode noise does have its own identifiable characteristic though. I DFed the source using a portable marine df rx with a sig meter, told the guy that peoples' reception was affected, let him hear the noise for himself, and he sorted it out double quick. In that case the guy was using industrial equipment from home, and was concerned to keep people happy in case someone complained and the local authority found out about what he was doing and charged him a business rate or forced him to close his business. The annoying thing was the "noise generator" remained energised even when he wasn't actually working. If all else fails, I think you'll have to DF the source, difficult though that will be, but I feel you should try to observe any variations in the noise (eg) times, wet or dry weather or any other characteristics which might give some clue as to the source (eg) factories or workshops etc open or closed. Good luck 73..Howard/G3RXH