Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12101 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 15:10:39 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 15:10:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 14635 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 14:11:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 14:11:11 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10Si7W-0005wH-01; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:06:58 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA02723 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:59:56 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA02719 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:59:54 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net ([195.102.240.137]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10Si7J-0005wB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:06:45 +0100 Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1b.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #61) id 10Si7A-0002s2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:06:36 +0100 Received: from miked.rsgbhq [192.168.2.30] by rsgb.org.uk [192.168.2.132] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:51:21 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" Organization: Radio Society of Great Britain To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:51:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: AF-filters and CW versus SlowCW Priority: normal In-reply-to: <37033EDB.63B6BC32@phonakcom.ch> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >From HB9ASB, JN36pt > > Today I've made some comparisons of different Audio-filter settings and > CW against Slow CW. All test were made blind and under real band-noise > conditions with the main receiving antenna (low noise, no QRN) and a > QRP-TX with a separate antenna. Here the main results (RX Harris RF590): > > 1. Good audio filters with BW from 10 to 50Hz may give a 6dB advantage > above the receiver without Audio-filter (250Hz IF). A 150Hz passive > LC-filter was somewhere in between. > > 2. There is no big difference between different BW in the range from 10 > to 50Hz. Although I got the impression that 10Hz was already to small > and 20Hz the optimum in my case (Timewave DSP599zx) > > 3. Slow CW with the Spectrogram (3sec dots) gives an advantage of about > 10dB above aural CW with narrow audio filtering. > > 4. I can confirm the optimal settings of Spectrogram found by Marco, > IK1ODO > > 5. There is no clear advantage of using longer dot-periods (e.g. 10s). > > > These findings differ from theoretical values but it proves how good our > ear-brain detector works. This is most interesting. I note that Toni agrees with Marco's assumption that there is no benefit using longer dots - I presume that the averaging control was altered to the optimum for each of these measurements, to perhaps 15 for 3s dots and 50 for 10s. My experience on-air is that static bursts are very much reduced (or even eliminated) when setting the averaging control to a higher value. It would seem reasonable, then, for 10s dots to work better under noisy conditions than 3s. Any comments? Mike