Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8547 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 17:46:07 +0100 Received: from magnet.plus.net.uk (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 17:46:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 18417 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:47:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:47:13 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10VeGa-0001cA-00; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:36:28 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA15716 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:36:38 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA15711 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:36:35 GMT Received: from public2.thorcom.com ([194.75.130.20] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10VeGB-0001bj-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:36:03 +0100 Received: from laatikko.saunalahti.fi ([195.74.0.48]) by public2.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #2) id 10Vdzk-0006Do-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:19:05 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from meisaku (MMCCXLVII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.43.147]) by laatikko.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA04687 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:15:50 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990409191549.007c26e0@mail.dlc.fi> X-Sender: oh2lx@mail.dlc.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:15:49 +0300 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E4in=F6_Lehtoranta?= Subject: Re: LF: DBF39 off-air In-reply-to: <205F4B3C4BCED21184C7006097630A8A069244@nmex01nt.hsd.utc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Hello folks, I'm a newcomer to this mailing list, Incidentally measured frequencies of DCF39/49 yesterday. DCF77 (77.5) and DCF39 (138.83/139.17) are continuously Fs recorded here at our Monitoring Station (qth: Jokela, 60N34 25E00), that's for LF propagation studies. Qth of the latter is Burg, perhaps that is why somebody may call it DBF39. Qth of DCF49 probably Mainflingen? Cheerio de Vaino, OH2LX IARU Region 1 Auroral Studies Coorninator PS Just reading article by PA0SE on RadCom, very nice... At 12:49 9.4.1999 +0100, you wrote: >Hello Dick, PA0SE and all > > >GS> BTW: Is there anybody capable of >GS> decoding the emission of DBF39 ?? > >DR> So even if you were able to decode the >DR> messages they would probably make no sense. > >Yes and No. > >By vewing the demodulated audio in >SSB mode on the scope, I can discern >different message lengths, short messages >and long messages. > >Long messages appearing most frequently, >short messages appear with relatively >large repetition times. > >As all radio stations have to identify >themselves from time to time, I would expect >that short messages _might_ contain the >station ID where long messages obviously >contain the mentioned remote control commands. > >So I do not care about the remote control >commands, but intend to "see" the station ID. > >Some OMs refer the station to as DBF39 >others refer to it as DCF39. > >End of last year I spoke with a technician >at EFR (the company using a.m. LF station >for their remote control service). He informed >me, that DCF39 is still used to identify the >station. By displaying the ASCII messages I would >like to confirm that this is actually the >case. > >Best 73 > >Gamal Soegiono (SWL) > >50N01 / 08E27 / JO 40 fa >soegiono@nm.hsd.utc.com ---------------------------------------------------------- V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX, POBox 50, FIN-05401 Jokela, Finland ------ Tel: +358-9-4173965 ---- Fax: +358-9-4173961 ------ E-mail: vaiski@dlc.fi - alias: oh2lx@dlc.fi & oh2lx@sral.fi