Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3299 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 15:44:12 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 15:44:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 1977 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 14:44:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 14:44:58 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10b3dq-0008WV-00; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:42:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA26022 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:42:54 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA26017 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:42:52 GMT Received: from ah-img-1.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.154] helo=hpamgaaa.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10b3dT-0008WJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:42:27 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.3) id KAA02102 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:40:42 -0400 From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" Subject: LF: Further signals measured (2nd version) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199904241040_MC2-7346-B157@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Hello, after the first version of my message was chopped after the dot of "U dot K dot ", here is another try without those dots: Today I had the opportunity to follow a normal speed QSO between G3XTZ and G3YXM. I was not able to hear both stations mostly above noise level but I took a reading of the input level of both stations with my selective level meter MV 61: G3XTZ, distance to my qth 732 km: -121 dBm(75 Ohm) G3YXM, distance to my qth 826 km: -119 dBm (75 Ohm). So, G3YXM, despite the fact that he is further away, has a signal that is 2 dB stonger than G3XTZ. BTW: I found the source of the CCIR curves (you have to pay 35.- CH-Francs to download them). According to a curve for medium dry ground (is the UK soil medium dry?) the difference in field strength between 826 and 732 km is around 3 dB, this would mean that G3YXM has an ERP that is 5 dB more than G3XTZ. True or not? Vy 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)