Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4693 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 12:57:38 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 12:57:38 +0100 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10aI3s-0004zm-01; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:54:32 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01842 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:54:20 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA01838 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:54:18 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from relay.bt.net ([194.72.6.60]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10aI3K-0004z5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:53:58 +0100 Received: from dub-img-9.compuserve.com by relay.bt.net with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:27:03 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (from root@localhost) by dub-img-9.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id HAA08780 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:20:57 -0400 From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" Subject: LF: Calculation of radiated power To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199904220722_MC2-72FC-788B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Hello Lowfers, Dick wrote: >Concluding I would say that the only reliable way of finding radiated power is by measuring the field strength near the station. But preferably at say 3 or 4 kilometers distance and not 1 km as I did so that correcting for the near field component is not required.< I understand the difficulties about measuring/estimating the ERP that Dick has pointed out in his message. How about the relative measruement of comparing the field stregth of a station with known ERP (or at least with one where the ERP can be estimated with a reasonable accuracy, such as DBF39 with 25 kW) and using the distance to those station to correct for path losses using the CCIR curves? The sample in my previous message comparing DF3LP and DBF29 is quite simple, especially the path-loss calculation is simplified and maybe needs som emore attention. Rik, ON7YD mentioned, that it was not 9 dB difference as I briefly calculated from the difference in distance but only 4 dB according to the CCIR curves, so DF3LPs ERP would be another 5 dB weaker than my anticipated 25 mW ... acording to the figures stated by Peter I believe this to be too low? Two questions in this respect: 1. Can someone point me to an internet page where to find those curves? 2. How do I use CCIR field strength attenuation in V/m to convert this into voltage (e.g. in dBm) attenuation at the input of my receiver (75 Ohm)? Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)