Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11082 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:49:01 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:49:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 19970 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:49:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:49:02 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10XqEj-00026V-01; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:47:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA21956 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:48:03 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA21952 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:48:01 GMT Received: from arl-img-9.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.139]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10XqEa-00026R-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:47:28 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by arl-img-9.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id NAA23679 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:46:32 -0400 From: "Dave Sergeant" Subject: LF: Receive performance To: "rsgb_lf_group" Message-ID: <199904151346_MC2-7224-194A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >From Dave Sergeant G3YMC I can answer Peter G8AFN's questionaire right now with no need to switch my receiver on on Saturday morning. DCB39 will be S9+18dB +/- a dB or so, as it always is apart from very occasional short lived QSB usually mid evening. Natural band noise will be around S3 at that time of day, but is S7 in the post dawn period. What my local QRN level will be is unknown as I may have S9 low energy fluorescents, or my local TV carrier generator may be on at S9 on 137.2. There is little to be gained from S meter reports because of the variation of sensitivity and linearity of these, even relative to background noise level. The real acid test as to whether you have enough sensitivity is as to how well you receive the natural background noise. You should be able to hear static crashes and natural thermal noise comfortably above your receiver noise, and if you have a tuned front end this should peak very nicely. If you have a totally quiet band background noise which seems to be mainly your internal receiver noise you have by no means enough sensitivity. At this QTH during the daytime the base background is around S3 with frequent and constant static bursts to S6 or S7. Loran is also there, but it seems somewhat variable and unpredictable at this QTH, being nothing like some report. A quick test to see whether intermods are your problem (in central England) is to listen on 138.0 - if you hear Rugby time signals you have a problem. This is the beat between Rugby on 60kHz and Droitwich on 198kHz