Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4698 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:18:43 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:18:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 14800 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:18:44 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:18:44 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10Xpbi-0001Qg-00; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:07:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA21546 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:07:28 GMT X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA21542 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:07:25 GMT Received: from server.italway.it ([193.70.27.5] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10XpbJ-0001Pk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:06:54 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from a (ppp13.italway.it [193.70.27.62]) by server.italway.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA03195 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:12:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990415171459.006741ec@server.italway.it> X-Sender: yasmin@server.italway.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:14:59 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Yasmin Tour Agenzia Viaggi" Subject: LF: LF receivers Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Hello Lf guys. I followed with great interest discussion about deaf receivers, and i would like to add my point of wiew about the matter. Situation from my area , central Italy, is rather different compared with north europe. Few Italian stations active ( 3-6), and all located in ( max) 300 km circle from me, not difficult to copy. Nearest DX stations are HB9's( 400 km), not easy to heard cause Alps mountains wall greatly reduced signals with lot of qsb. Than next step is G land with lot of stations but over 1000 km distance, and few DL's and PA's( 700-800 km). Situation is just a little better for hams located in northern Italy. So you can imagine my wonder, and envy too, when i read about hams with 15-20 stations heard/ contacted in a week-end. Few hundreds milliwatts ERP, starting from a 10 mt vertical arms connected at 20-30 metrs long top hat, are enough to make several qsos in a such densely populated ham region but are rather poor to extablished long range qso. This means that hams located far away are often in trouble to heard distant stations;they need their correspondents work a suitable ERP, to have a chance . Infact, except particular conditions, 100-200 mw ERP are'nt enough to cover a 1000 km path, despite receiver conditions on other end, especially in conventional cw. So it's sure right try to improve receiver sistem, but, please, don't forget to work also on antenna and/or power output !! 73 de Marzio I5MXX