Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27160 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 13:41:19 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 13:41:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 5014 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 12:42:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 12:42:55 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10XOvU-00019q-00; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:37:56 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA06009 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:36:19 GMT X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA06005 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:36:16 GMT Received: from tmsl.tms-ltd.com ([62.172.160.226] ident=firewall-user) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10XOtW-00013x-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:35:54 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: by tmsl.tms-ltd.com; id NAA06032; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:38:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from unknown(193.150.182.141) by tmsl.tms-ltd.com via smap (3.2) id xma006016; Wed, 14 Apr 99 13:38:40 +0100 Received: by tmst9400.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2BVNG26F>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <07CD861704A7D211846A0090273A8D211EB109@tmst9400.tms-ltd.com> From: "Cleall Peter" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF goodsignals - deaf receivers Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:34:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org It would be nice to set up a detailed scientific investigation, however this would take a lot of organising and time for the analysis. But we may get useful information from a simple exercise. If on saturday April 17 we all received the DCF39 "beacon" at 1200 UTC and filled in and E-mailed a simple questionaire as below direct to me at peter.cleall@tms-ltd.com I will do some simple analysis and see if it reveals anything. Please send direct to avoid clogging up the reflector. Data requested for the receive system only Name:- Callsign:- QRA:- E-Mail:- Signal level received frrom DCF39 [in S points] Amount of QSB Background noise level Rx Bandwidth setting Antenna Type ie L/wire, T , L , vertical , loop or frame (sheilded or unsheilded) Antenna Dimensions :- Average Height in metres:- Length:- number and size of wires:- Earth system type:- ? radials, earth mat, earthing stake, domestic water pipes etc. Length and number of radials Surface or subsurface Is the complete system resonated :- yes/no if yes what method do you use What receiver is used:- Do you use any extra RF filtering:- yes/no Do you use any extra AF filtering:- yes/no Do you use a switched variable attenuator in the receive path:- yes/no Do you use a pre-amp or an upconverter to listen:- yes/no many thanks for your help 73's peter G8AFN