Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20387 invoked from network); 28 Mar 1999 06:19:43 -0000 Received: from magnet.plus.net.uk (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by medusa.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Mar 1999 06:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 6535 invoked from network); 28 Mar 1999 06:19:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Mar 1999 06:19:17 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10R8tS-000675-00; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:17:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA10275 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:17:49 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA10235 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 06:01:46 GMT Received: from dub-img-8.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.138]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10R8da-00060D-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:01:35 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by dub-img-8.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id BAA19104 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 01:01:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 01:00:04 -0500 From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" Subject: LF: 136 kHz To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199903280100_MC2-6FB9-73@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Peter, DJ8WL wrote: >>From recent examinations at a friends place close-by I can only recommend >the use of an attenuator (switchable in 5 db- steps) between such a tall >antenna and the RX-input to check overloading of the RX. Quite a few of us >have to do this - including me (I have about 1,5...2 volts RF across 50 Ohm >RX-input from LF-transmitters 25 and 45 km away!). Unfortuna- >tely their tx-frequencies are too close to our band to use sharp >cutoff-filters. A solution might be a narrow crystal filter at the front >(RF) end. A week ago or so I bought an old, East German made selective level meter, ranging from 200 Hz to 2.1 MHz ("MV 61 Universal-Pegelmesser"). Although nothing indicates, that this is a receiver, I gave it a try. Indeed, it is an excellent receiving piece of equipment if used properly, and it fulfills several of the requirements Peter mentioned in his mail. The unit has got the capability to measure (on the receiving frequency or throughout the entire band) the level in dBm, ranging from -130 dBm (this is in the 0.5 uV range) up to +20 dBm (this is in the Volt-range at 50 Ohm). To achieve this, an attanuator can be switched, both, in steps of 10 dB as well as 1 dB (cascaded). An additional DC meter allows to read the signal strength up to 1 dBm. Additionally, the unit has a voltage output of +/- 2.5 Volt, referring to the signal strength, so here I see a good possibility to do long-term QSB observations, e.g. on the 137 kHz RTTY signal. Two excellent filters (I do not yet have the full documentation, so I don't know, what kind of filters it is) can be switched to either1.7 kHz and 0.1 kHz bandwidth. The 0.1 kHz filter has got 100 Hz/3 dB and 450 Hz/60 dB shape factor. The frequency can be either adjusted by a internal VFO (good long-term stability, ability to adjust frequency with an accuracy of +/- 10 Hz and uses a funny way of measuring the VFO frequency ba using a combination of digita readout with a DC-meter), however, the Unit also accepts an external oscillator between 4000 kHz and 6100 kHz to cover the entire range of 200 Hz to 2.1 MHz. I use the same DDS VFO that I use for transmitting now to cover the 4135.7 -4147.8 kHz frequency necessary to check the frequency with an accuracty of +/- 1Hz. The unit has no decoding capability for SSB or CW, only for AM. However, it has an IF output at 200 kHz, so I feed my IC-746 with all filters and goodis (250 Hz/500 Hz plus noise reduction, etc.) with this frequency. With this combination of selective level meter and Transceiver I nearly got rid of all the DBF39 and related problems. I copied stations in aural CW that I could not even detect before with the Datong converter, e.g. G4KEV with 6 dB over the noise. For those of you who like to listen for stations below our band as well as beacons: I can copy signals down to 16.000 kHz, that I can identify (FSK), below there is a lot of noise/unidentified transmissions, e.g. 50 Hz humming plus harmonics in the 200 Hz to 1 kHz range! Beacons between 200 and 400 kHz can be received very clear. I have seen the MV 61 on several rallies and flee-markets here in Germany, I am sure they also swapped over to Holland or Belgium. I had never considered them being receivers, so I never thought to buy one, however, I gave it a try. With thi message I want to encourage everyone to look for those selective level meters and make use of them as LF/VLF receivers. I only paid 60.- DM (approximately 20 pounds/35 US$) for mine! The only disadvantage of this unit: it's big (like everything we look at at LF should be!), it's 19" wide (but looks great in the shack, makes much more impression than a simple Datong converter!). Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)