Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1992 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 08:33:43 +0100 Received: from magnet.plus.net.uk (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 08:33:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 29674 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 07:37:55 -0000 Received: from punt.unica.co.uk (194.75.183.60) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 07:37:55 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by punt.unica.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) id 10poSy-0005Fx-01; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:32:36 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA09591 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:32:08 GMT X-Priority: 3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA09587 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:32:06 GMT X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from jazzfm.netcomuk.co.uk ([194.42.248.66]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10pogx-00008h-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:47:04 +0100 Received: from jazzfm.com [192.168.102.5] by jazzfm.netcomuk.co.uk [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for ; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:30:06 +0100 Received: from JazzFM-Message_Server by jazzfm.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:30:59 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:30:31 +0100 From: "Martin Charman" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Noise problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: Martin@jazzfm.com Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org If the noise is interfering with broadcast services designed to be received in your area then the RIS should be interested in helping you out. If you have problems with them, give me a ring and I might be able to help with contacts! Martin G4FKK 0171 706 4100 >>> "Kate Moore" 06/03 9:00 am >>> I guess it had to happen eventually; after months of generally low-noise RX on LF, I have suddenly got a serious local QRN problem. It started abruptly at the beginning of last week and has been on continuously since then. The '850 s-meter reads a steady S9 on 136kHz, with a continuous roaring in the speaker (like a cross between motor spikes and wider pulses), so I am struggling with even the loudest LF signals, let alone weak DX. It extends below LF and up past 7MHz, so even 40m work is difficult. We first noticed it on the BC RX in the kitchen, when listening to a medium wave station from Coventry (which we are JUST outside the coverage area of) which was noisey, as if their TX was running low power - not so. Local and national LW/MW signals intended for this area aren't noticably affected. I went out with a Walkman on Monday trying to DF it and it is easily detectable beyond the block our house is on - peaking about 200m behind our house, over a busy main road. I couldn't get an accurate fix on it due to local phone lines and buildings giving false nulls, and whilst I was wandering back and forth, a local dog-walker challenged me as to what I was up to and clearly didn't accept my explanation, so I gave up! It's difficult to decide what is causing the noise - the area is very mixed large domestic plots with some shops and tiny industrial units, but mostly housing. From the physical and frequency range it is detectable over, it must be causing BC problems to houses closer than we are, but I imagine most people wouldn't understand what was happening. It is on continuously and must either be a large 'dirty' installation, something very seriously breaking down or possibly one of the new broad-band signalling systems (although I doubt the latter). Whatever it is, whilst it's on, I'm effectively QRT on 136, topband, 80m and 40m; so I need to get to the bottom of it. From what I've said, does anyone know whether the authorities would be sympathetic to tracking it down and getting the owner to clean it up, or am I on my own? Has anyone had any success in similar circumstances? I think Derek had trouble with a noise source last year - did you get it cleaned up, Derek, or did you have to work around it? All hints and suggestions gratefully received....... John G4GVC near Leicester, IO92JP