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hallo lfer,s
bin  immer dankbar fuer eure comentare am reflektor ,
leider hat sich einiges geaendert seit 1999,
damals hatten wir das nicht ,
hatte in normal cw 17 laender ,
angetroffen ohne reflector und pc,
und mehr als 200 qso,s heute streitet man sich ueber die ID,
die paar oms die qrv sind denken sich ihren teil,
die meisten halten ihre qso,s ueber den reflektor , 
leider 
wissen die wenigsten wie schwierig es ist als "amateur"
nicht als profi ,ein gutes  signal 
zustande zu bringen .
wenn ich hier mitlese bin ich der einzige amateur ,
habe das thema nicht studiert bin von beruf schlosser ,
oft denke ich  ich gehoere hier nicht dazu ,
also macht das ganze nicht zu schwierig ,
sonst werden die ID bald leichter fallen weils nicht mehr so viele gibt .
73  schoene weihnachten oe5odl



Chris wrote:
> Hi Rik,
> The idea is fine. But, the problems I have with this are (1) Stations 
> don't 
> always notify us who they are and what they are up to (Mike, G3XDV, is a 
> 
> perfect example of how it should be done, keeping us FULLY informed), 
> and 
> (2) is where I agree with Stefan, what about listeners (lookers) who are 
> not 
> on this refelector? Two letters are of little use to them. I know two 
> stations near me who look on 137 but are not on here - for various 
> reasons.
> You just can't beat a full callsign, even if you do sometimes only get 
> snatches of it. As it is, stations are often 'identified' by frequency 
> with 
> very dubious visual evidence!
> Chris, G4AYT.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 10:04 AM
> Subject: LF: RE: Full ID
> 
> 
> Hello Mike, all,
> 
> for propagation test purposes (sound much better than beaconing) all we 
> need 
> is an unambiguous identification. A single character will lead to 
> confusion, 
> but 2 characters should do the job.
> So what about using the 2 last characters of the callsign ?
> That would make most ID's more or less of the same length.
> G3XDV would use "DV", OR7T would use "7T", DF6NM would use "NM" and so 
> on.
> I cannot see any conflicts right now (= 2 stations active in propagation 
> 
> tests with identical 2 last characters).
> Is national law requires a full id it can always be send in 12WMP CW.
> 
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
> 
> ________________________________________
> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.
> org] 
> namens Mike Dennison [mike.dennison@ntlworld.com]
> Verzonden: woensdag 22 december 2010 17:52
> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Onderwerp: LF: Full ID
> 
> OK, it seems that most people want full suffixes to be sent. I
> believe I had good reasons to use a short ID, but I am happy to go
> along with the majority view.
> 
> Of course the final straw was Mal threatening not to talk to me!
> 
> Beacon tonight (in addition to, and not instead of, real QSOs) will
> be on 136.177kHz, 'XDV' synchronised with the start of each hour.
> 
> 73 de Mike
> ======== 
> 
>