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I will try the Twente receiver but my internet is so very slow it might not work well enough. 73 de George, DU1GM [...] Content analysis details: (3.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] 0.6 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [121.54.32.146 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ca507d660b5ebb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none You never know Stefan I might get a weak trace from you overnight! I'm too stupid to use Spec lab! I will try the Twente receiver but my internet is so very slow it might not work well enough. 73 de George, DU1GM On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:20:29 +0200, you wrote: >Hi George, > >There is no chance for you to display normal WSPR from me over that=20 >distance in a spectrogram. Maybe you could display WSPR-32 but this is=20 >still to optimistic i think. We really have to start in something like=20 >QRSS-120 or DFCW-180 and then see what comes out. > >I have no idea how to set Argo for optimal displaying DFCW-180 since i=20 >don't use the new version of the program. Furthermore i am very=20 >convinced by using Spectrum Lab for LF/MF detection. Yes, the program is= =20 >much more complex but it offers some essential features! The band=20 >limiting and noise blanking will reduce the QRN very significantly! The=20 >improvement can vary from a few to 10 dB, depending on the kind of=20 >noise. I will try to generate a new spectrogram soon, showing this = effect. >I don't know if Argo allows noise cancelling. But if you loose say 6 dB=20 >SNR, that makes a difference from invisible to O copy. > >Did you try the Twente WEB SDR link i sent you? This is also useful to=20 >check if the reference signal you're using is available at present. I'm=20 >daily listening to AM BCD stns for many hours a day :-) > >As said, if you like i can give you some advice how to run a DCF-plot. > >73, Stefan/DK7FC > >