Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (rly-mb06.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.164]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB042-d144b046642dd; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB068-d144b046642dd; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAs0Z-0004ye-Lk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAs0Z-0004yV-7X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAs0Y-0002fN-7q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:11 +0000 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1744528bwz.4 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oOEQ3G5foyyA1eG2wKfT0LU/91rOeofXXKeUynMUaF4=; b=tr/BZRZF/Ux4WnYauhqAbMCzOyXTRpAPuiRCA2ncTknZJZKmFfZDLVdWNJzwJrT1MN EbpqJrRPggNNVVAFHdmr64gus98vSezjK9o7pGDpoEQC7t8UojX/MevxFCcqkdoRFsFU MLa376IQjFdcTEPkZtKFQwWxK/1//gWSP0ShU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pE5swHLkGlGSvrvMr4vF8lxR+OZXVTwTo2YOb7h6jckfIgcovNJGg+4lh8ZzRzG23e MgNk8knnbD/l5uRsgETmiI0SQJFabkAjxx5X31z7WbTIEyfGmEFgoZqcc/pcfkiS4h8g n3+GaNDr/U3kMIFvLb03uf4ZW9hiwNk4aEG20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.204 with SMTP id u12mr333999hbu.81.1258579444370; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:24:04 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m285.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) You need to copy and paste the URL - the closing curly bracket is necessary but doesn't get carried across on just clicking on the link. Very satisfying - nothing about listening to a carrier being pulsed on and= off Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/18 Rik Strobbe : > http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=3Den&rlink= =3D{AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} > > ________________________________ > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org] > namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] > Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium > > Rik > What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are telegra= phy. > The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers > states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and MCW > and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a > different category. > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rik Strobbe > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM > Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium > All, > > over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendati= on > T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. > > I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch)= : > > Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde > voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van > uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken. > Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. > > English translation: > A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same condition= s as > Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. > This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. > > So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. > Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): > - 501-504kHz > - NIB > - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) > - max. 100Hz bandwidth > - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text mod= es) > > 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T