Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a3649c0065211c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:22:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG098-a3649c0065211c; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:21:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljfmu-0006Zq-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ljfmu-0006Zh-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.218.171]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ljfmq-0004vF-SY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:24 +0000 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so264327bwz.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :x-goomoji-body:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eSLGzKu6I7Nm79D4KNCT9c2Aa/ilcyvC5OV/u5SUY7o=; b=TWP0ZFmZGwEsssb/azXksea9Avj+5GLhcn6kzzO280EeEoc8k1FAZTTmZ6re9s/IRQ n7u5VX2Ks3BjtnP0oXpImrLca/g/nOhdeUYGOQapc/sx2HDFsLkUWQzMUhED3k/PvWwB jYz0UvJ1FY6BO89L1ZX3tfwVvJbuKXBIW+HEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:x-goomoji-body:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=BkDFZOeQyBkq1p5YtO385/UMEi8iOwqIrGYCcfteHQJO+kHjis4aBJUTPFmIM3SQFv qwZ7xRoOfcYbjAnx2j1cxgOgKIO8ju9TRx7r5EIetvUpdbllDnyOpxAGmqh8L2QTTu1P +r52qcO9RQZkLWf0jqwdS69+bI+jFkCv2TXsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.115.135 with SMTP id i7mr117575bkq.178.1237321274785; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:21:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <005501c9a73b$dd0b8ac0$6401a8c0@asus> X-Goomoji-Body: true Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Who's playing on 503.7 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d233.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d646880e7fd00465564fb9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 --0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch on my beacon Tx. But there are too many peaks on the green annd blue traces to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx. Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a 'decode' with this monitoring S/W. All it does is to measure the signal power over precisely this time slot, using a synchronised FFT with a bin size of 0.2Hz, which after windowing gives about 0.4Hz noise bandwidth. So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant impact, and persist over 5 seconds. Short spikes get averaged out to not-a-lot. Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though this reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box? If not, http://www.g4jnt.com/beacons.htm at the bottom look for PCBCN Directly, http://www.g4jnt.com/PCBCN.zip Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT > *Hi Andy, LF,* > > * * > > *I have not detected anything here other than your Tx.* > > * * > > *I was going to e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & > 6 minute slots, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise > which I experience here from time to time. Is there an issue with the deco= de > software being =93foxed=94 by high noise level?* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > > *15:45 40.35 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *15:46 41.05 25.76 -240.0 1499.5* > > *15:47 39.52 25.76 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:00 41.70 25.75 -240.0 1499.5* > > *16:01 41.62 25.75 -240.0 1510.6* > > *16:02 31.49 25.75 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:15 40.10 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:16 30.16 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:17 29.17 25.47 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:30 37.85 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:31 41.80 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:32 36.23 28.93 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:45 40.98 25.80 -240.0 1499.6* > > *16:46 29.45 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *16:47 30.17 25.80 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:00 35.23 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:01 28.35 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:02 35.28 25.58 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:15 45.32 25.10 -240.0 1499.4* > > *17:16 30.14 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:17 27.57 25.10 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:30 51.09 25.30 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:31 53.16 25.30 -240.0 1499.6* > > *17:32 30.18 25.30 -240.0 0.0* > > *17:45 47.93 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:46 48.63 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *17:47 49.12 25.21 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:00 38.75 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:01 32.01 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:02 28.89 34.29 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:15 51.36 26.01 -240.0 1499.6* > > *18:16 38.85 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:17 40.74 26.01 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:30 43.06 24.96 -240.0 1499.5* > > *18:31 29.24 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:32 29.61 24.96 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:45 36.98 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:46 34.87 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *18:47 36.14 26.26 -240.0 0.0* > > *19:00 50.09 26.57 -240.0 1499.7* > > *19:01 42.04 26.57 -240.0 1518.0* > > *19:02 28.58 26.57 -240.0 0.0* > > * * > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Andy Talbot > *Sent:* 17 March 2009 19:48 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Who's playing on 503.7 > > > > OK, Who is it? [?] > > We can see you > > There's activity in the 5 and 6 minutes slots. > > > > > > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > --0016e6d646880e7fcc0465564fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I filled in a couple at 1800, deliberately, by flicking the test switch= on my beacon Tx.=A0=A0=A0But there are too many peaks on the green annd blu= e traces=A0to not suspect someone else is firing up a Tx.
=A0
Its not a case of false decodes - there's not such thing as a '= decode' with this monitoring S/W.=A0=A0 All it does is to measure=A0the=20= signal power over precisely =A0this time slot, using=A0a synchronised FFT wi= th a=A0bin size of 0.2Hz,=A0which after windowing gives=A0about 0.4Hz noise=20= bandwidth.=A0 So any QRM would have to be quite strong to make a significant= impact, and persist over 5 seconds.=A0=A0 Short spikes get=A0 averaged out=20= to not-a-lot.
=A0
Did the messages about the modified beacon timing software get though t= his reflector - don't appear to see them in the in box?
=A0
If not,=A0 http://www.g4jn= t.com/beacons.htm=A0at the bottom look for PCBCN
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/17 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Andy, LF,

=A0

I have not dete= cted anything here other than your Tx.

=A0

I was going to=20= e-mail anyway because I have some false decodes on the 5 & 6 minute slot= s, see list below. These coincide with high bursts of noise which I experien= ce here from time to time. Is there an issue with the decode software being=20= =93foxed=94 by high noise level?

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

15:45=A0 40.35= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

15:46=A0 41.05= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

15:47=A0 39.52= =A0 25.76=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:00=A0 41.70= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

16:01=A0 41.62= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 1510.6

16:02=A0 31.49= =A0 25.75=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:15=A0 40.10= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:16=A0 30.16= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:17=A0 29.17= =A0 25.47=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:30=A0 37.85= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:31=A0 41.80= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:32=A0 36.23= =A0 28.93=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:45=A0 40.98= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

16:46=A0 29.45= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

16:47=A0 30.17= =A0 25.80=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:00=A0 35.23= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:01=A0 28.35= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:02=A0 35.28= =A0 25.58=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:15=A0 45.32= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.4

17:16=A0 30.14= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:17=A0 27.57= =A0 25.10=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:30=A0 51.09= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:31=A0 53.16= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

17:32=A0 30.18= =A0 25.30=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

17:45=A0 47.93= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:46=A0 48.63= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

17:47=A0 49.12= =A0 25.21=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:00=A0 38.75= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:01=A0 32.01= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:02=A0 28.89= =A0 34.29=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:15=A0 51.36= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.6

18:16=A0 38.85= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:17=A0 40.74= =A0 26.01=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:30=A0 43.06= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.5

18:31=A0 29.24= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:32=A0 29.61= =A0 24.96=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:45=A0 36.98= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:46=A0 34.87= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

18:47=A0 36.14= =A0 26.26=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

19:00=A0 50.09= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1499.7

19:01=A0 42.04= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 1518.0

19:02=A0 28.58= =A0 26.57=A0 -240.0=A0 0.0

=A0

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 17 March 2009 19:48To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= br> Subject: LF: Who's playi= ng on 503.7

=A0

OK, Who is it?

We can see you

There's activity in the=A05 and 6 minutes slots.

=A0

=A0


Andy =A0G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com


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