Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMG023-a1949be35831db; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:18:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1949be35831db; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:18:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LjApW-0003ev-SH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:18:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LjApW-0003em-3a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:18:02 +0000 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.186]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LjApT-0003FG-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:18:02 +0000 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e30so1532029fke.4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:17:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=52eFhdIiCtFfaUKtM1IV9RJLMqQDr1pW5Gvi8863neI=; b=JNzKGFV+30KHvEHbuF6i7NpWF3oV2J5DxQbU4PImP++Jxo3WHeE0E2jmOhXHhVp+OJ HKs74E/fRNf1AtCJThVpGYuR7uS9g9CHvatv+mfz/qFCqUi4mAcwdPhyNJCgABApIzgD pp1aVE5SZcUjLIbmQ709rtF8OgwlyKUYrfi/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VTZ4cq2BrFPT3vrsfGAEsjuUOH/AZ7jxC0xhyBqJln94w5G0QcYqUsVLhHG50V4c7I CztnAo+1AysbJRtyoaoOxIzDv2NbfYtvxcJTkUW++B+M+chHQmeVUoH4WAix8tzTFmVA GQClYBxM7ifqdMrBxWHV2jW6MygNafUTGBqAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.58.9 with SMTP id e9mr1568416bkh.23.1237202277653; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:17:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> References: <009001c9a588$7eb02c60$6401a8c0@asus> <00e001c9a5a7$f07216a0$6401a8c0@asus> <826BA6086575402A8C87062492069F5A@AGB> <004501c9a623$a4bf81d0$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TVD_FW_GRAPHIC_ID3=2 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Syncback software Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=001636c5bcc5465e0104653a9ad2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d288.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5bcc5465e0104653a9ad2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bcc5465dfe04653a9ad1 --001636c5bcc5465dfe04653a9ad1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6 that generate the green and blue traces could be used by others. There is no need to generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmission every 15 minutes. All the monitoring software does is look at the carrier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds. So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 second intervals at xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, xx:35:20 and xx:50:35:25 where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's plot. Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace. Try it manually to see :-) Timing is extremally important though. Accurcy needs to be within 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, which makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory. I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be able to activate again by about 18:30. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT > *Hi Graham, LF,* > > * * > > *You wrote :-* > > *>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? *** > > * * > > *I mentioned in my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was > originally for grabber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design=20= & > better navigation etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.= . > * > > * * > > *If the uploaded chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers > then I will change the text & make it a permanent feature for the > foreseeable future.* > > * * > > *BTW :-* > > * * > > *For those of you who are not familiar with the chart =96 * > > * * > > *The RED trace is Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the > noise level at my QTH.* > > * * > > *The Blue & GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they > are for the other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.* > > * * > > *Cheers,* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT* > > * * > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Graham > *Sent:* 15 March 2009 22:17 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > Gary.. > > > > That looks good ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you then [image= : > Smile emoticon] > > > > *>>>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute > intervals. <<< that could be backed off to 15 mins as the beacon only > sends every 15 ?? * > > > > *the 15 db over the noise in day time is the same at this qth .. looks > like the big dips round 1900 where just when we where testing .. typical > hihi* > > > > *tnx- G .. * > > > > *From:* Gary - G4WGT > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* LF: RE: Syncback software > > > > *LF,* > > * * > > *I have now got the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).* > > * * > > *The purpose of this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as receiv= ed > here to my web site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.* > > * * > > *I now have a receiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.* > > * * > > *You can view the chart on my web site at :-* > > * * > > *http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html* > > * * > > *For the moment ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed > to use with the 500KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a > useful upload I will make it a permanent feature but may have to extend th= e > frequency coverage of grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations > which will cause the PC to struggle.* > > * * > > *Let me have your comments please.* > > * * > > *73* > > * * > > *Gary =96 G4WGT.* > > * * > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *On Behalf Of *Gary - G4WGT > *Sent:* 15 March 2009 16:10 > *To:* LF -RSGB LF Group > *Subject:* LF: Syncback software > > > > *Hi LF,* > > * * > > *If anyone is using Syncback software & can help, please.* > > * * > > *I am tying to upload a file to my website who=92s filename does not chang= e, > only the file size changes. I tried to do it with Argo-upload but failed s= o > I downloaded Syncback & still failing.* > > * * > > *Syncback gives me the following message :-* > > * * > > ************************************ > > *Can connect, but unable to change to destination directory:* > > */chart01.bmp:not a directory* > > ************************************ > > *The Syncback help does not give me the answer.* > > * * > > *Any help will be appreciated* > > * * > > *Or* > > * * > > *Will Argo-Upload do it?* > > * * > > *Or* > > * * > > *Is there something else to do it?* > > * * > > *Thanks in anticipation,* > > * * > > *73,* > > > > *Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.* > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 > 06:54:00 > --001636c5bcc5465dfe04653a9ad1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Those two time slots of 15 minute interval plus 5 and 6=A0that generate= the green and blue traces=A0could be used by others.=A0 There is no need to= generate the full beacon sequence, just a precisely time 5 second transmiss= ion every 15 minutes.=A0 All the monitoring software does is look at the car= rier S/N during the precise interval of 25 to 30 seconds.
=A0
So, if someone could come up with a Tx that transmits precisely for 5 s= econd intervals at=A0xx:05:25 , xx:20:25, =A0xx:35:20 and=A0 xx:50:35:25=A0= =A0 where xx: is the hour it will show up as the gree trace on Gary's pl= ot.=A0=A0 Similarly, at xx:06:25 etc it will appear as the blue trace.=A0
Try it manually to see :-)
=A0
Timing is extremally important though.=A0=A0 Accurcy needs to be within= 0.5 seconds for the monitoring S/W to make an accurate level recording, whi= ch makes GPS or network based controlled timing almost mandatory.
=A0
I've switched off at the moment as mentioned earlier, but should be= able to activate again by about 18:30.=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/16 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Graham, LF,<= /span>

=A0

You wrote :-

>&= gt;>Upload is set at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute inte= rvals. <<< that could be backed off to=A0 15 mins as the beacon onl= y=A0 sends every 15 ??

=A0

I mentioned in=20= my previous mail to ignore the text on the page as it was originally for gra= bber 1 for when I upgrade the web site (to a new design & better navigat= ion etc), also mentioned is that upload is every 30 minutes.

=A0

If the uploaded= chart proves useful or interesting to operators & viewers then I will c= hange the text & make it a permanent feature for the foreseeable future.=

=A0

BTW :-

=A0

For those of yo= u=A0 who are not familiar with the chart =96

=A0

The RED trace i= s Andy=92s (G4JNT) beacon signal & the BLACK trace is the noise level at= my QTH.

=A0

The Blue &=20= GREEN are not in use & should be ignored on this chart as they are for t= he other beacons used when monitoring on the 5MHz allocation.<= /b>

=A0

Cheers,<= /font>

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT<= /span>

=A0

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Graham
Sent: 15 March 2009 22:17=20


To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org
Subject:<= /span> Re: LF: RE: Syncback software<= /span>=20

=A0

Gary..

=A0

That looks good=A0 ... 0500 looks best time for a qso .. see you=20= then 3D"Smile=A0

=A0

>>>Upload is set=20= at 5 minute intervals and auto refresh at 2 minute intervals. <<< t= hat could be backed off to=A0 15 mins as the beacon only=A0 sends every 15 ?= ?

=A0

the=A0 15 db over the nois= e in day time is the=A0 same at this qth .. looks like the big dips round 19= 00=A0 where just when we where testing ..=A0 typical hihi<= /strong>

=A0

tnx- G ..

=A0

Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject:= LF: RE: Syncback software

=A0

LF,

=A0

I have now got=20= the software, Syncback running correctly (I think).

=A0

The purpose of=20= this is to upload the chart from Andy=92s beacon as received here to my web=20= site periodically, ie. every 30 minutes.

=A0

I now have a re= ceiver running 24/7 monitoring Andy,s beacon on 503.7KHz.<= /p>

=A0

You can view th= e chart on my web site at :-

=A0

http://mywe= b.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber3.html

=A0

For the moment=20= ignore the text on the page as it is originally designed to use with the 500= KHz grabber when I renew my web site design. If it is a useful upload I will= make it a permanent feature but may have to extend the frequency coverage o= f grabber 1 so not to overload the PC with operations which will cause the P= C to struggle.

=A0

Let me have you= r comments please.

=A0

73

=A0

Gary =96 G4WGT.=

=A0

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf=20= Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 15 March 2009 16:10To: LF -RSGB LF Group
Subject: LF: Syncback software=

=A0

Hi LF,

=A0

If anyone is using Syncback software &=20= can help, please.

=A0

I am tying to upload a file to my website w= ho=92s filename does not change, only the file size changes. I tried to do i= t with Argo-upload but failed so I downloaded Syncback & still failing.<= /span>

=A0

Syncback gives me the following message :-<= /span>

=A0

**********************************

Can connect, but unable to change to destin= ation directory:

/chart01.bmp:not a directory<= /b>

**********************************

The Syncback help does not give me the answ= er.

=A0

Any help will be appreciated<= /b>

=A0

Or

=A0

Will Argo-Upload do it?

=A0

Or

=A0

Is there something else to do it?

=A0

Thanks in anticipation,

=A0

73,

=A0

Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP.

=A0


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.= .237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00


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