Return-Path: Received: from rly-df06.mx.aol.com (rly-df06.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.19]) by air-df01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINDF014-55949bac4382ca; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df06.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF064-55949bac4382ca; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:38:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LiE8q-0004yQ-Rv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LiE8q-0004yH-2i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com ([209.85.218.164]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LiE8m-00051i-Pt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:38:04 +0000 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3032605bwz.4 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xTy+xmKYcni9VQC6MJAPF/GTrHpUJl7c6FaE+NKsjTM=; b=S688Nu5eMGSgZiagZvVNxzr8BUChrWE8BvJu36UPaWQ1Qpuwz4MTjkMu9xROuEfaFm WwiAIsI7lPMld7ICPiLOKHgkoyd8X5ZikDhWYRMOkU4KFglKPYDOr/zYLeaMzJJpxwPt au1SA3/gsr3WoGm+a/7/3IjrnMlx0C9/5g19M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MNAQOMY4+Mdr6YIIsw6gI07yGsmfU429EzL8Dgchg/junqi7Kyr0SrvaKbbkmRQWJs 7zfG6CqFkvHPhwojEXAzpjfv/1CNJZsfhT2eok7cHyUcmRcHrVPLmbMPKCcRCWSng7sK xsz63bzwmAlGxOILlrnKC006/p4gize1zgogQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.4 with SMTP id w4mr497952bkg.25.1236976673252; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> References: <76D5267D67914AA8851C33ECCF8AA856@DR2> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:37:53 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502bad0346530046506134e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d290.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502bad0346530046506134e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its going continuously, although I suspect I'll have to turn it off when I'm not around such as weekday day times - unattended beacons are not permitted it seems! Certainly will be going all weekend. If you've set up logging, the file you specified will be in the default installation directory. Its a simple .txt file. Nothing clever like the WSPR monitoring S/W Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/3/13 dave.riley3 > *Andy, et al, re: logging program* > ** > *I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is already collecting data on > 5290...* > ** > *Will you be on tonight?? 503.700kc ( 502.200 usb ) ?* > ** > *If so I'll leave it parked on you all night with -240 seconds delay.* > ** > *Where do I find the logs stored when session is over??* > ** > *TNX* > ** > *Dave @ WD2XSH/17* > ** > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Andy Talbot > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM > *Subject:* LF: Re: Multi-function beacon > > Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably > continue to do so until further notice. A few listeners have downloaded > the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / > listings. I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect > revelations, but Gerhard / DK6NI has been monitoring pretty > well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured > over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB. > > Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ? > > Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software > you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds > or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four > minute offset I'm running it on. > > Andy G4JNT > www.g4jnt.com > > > 2009/3/6 Andy Talbot > >> I've now started transmitting a timed beacon signal on 503.7kHz that >> is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of >> the last two years from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, and has a similar signal >> structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK. These all have an >> initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a >> precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements. >> See http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm for the >> complete 5MHz signal structure. For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, >> the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 >> message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start >> >> Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring >> these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and >> saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements. >> The software can be downloaded from >> http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php . PSK31 data can be >> copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages. >> >> *TIMING * >> The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past >> the quarter hour. >> ie each transmission starts at *xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49 * This >> time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with >> my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna >> used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost >> data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring >> windows. >> >> NOTE If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz >> beacons at 00, 01 and 02 minutes. >> *SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE * to monitor >> this transmission at the 04 minute point. The necessary alteration can be >> done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then >> setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds). This will make the >> software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it >> would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first >> minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL >> >> The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the >> last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the >> controller PIC. In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to >> the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change >> to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA. >> >> >> >> --00504502bad0346530046506134e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its going continuously, although I suspect I'll have to turn it off= when I'm not around such as weekday day times=A0- unattended beacons ar= e not permitted it seems!=A0=A0 Certainly will be going all weekend.
=A0
If you've set up logging, the file you specified will be in the def= ault installation directory.=A0 Its a simple .txt file.=A0=A0 Nothing clever= like the WSPR monitoring S/W
=A0

Andy =A0G4JNT
www= .g4jnt.com


2009/3/13 dave.riley3 <dave.riley3@verizon.net>=
Andy, et al, re: logging program
=A0
I just plugged in the G3PLX program and it is=20= already collecting data on 5290...
=A0
Will you be on tonight??=A0=A0 503.700kc=A0 (=20= 502.200 usb ) ?
=A0
If so I'll leave it parked on you all nigh= t with -240 seconds delay.
=A0
Where do I find the logs stored when session i= s over??
=A0
TNX
=A0
Dave @ WD2XSH/17
=A0
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM<= /div>
Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beaco= n

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably=20= continue to do so until further notice.=A0=A0 A few listeners have downloade= d the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots /= listings.=A0=A0 I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect= revelations, but Gerhard=A0 /=A0 DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well=A0co= ntinuously, and has plotted some=A0deep fades / enhancements measured over h= ours with depths in the regions of 30dB.
=A0
Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?=A0=A0
=A0
Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring softwa= re you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) se= conds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the=20= four minute offset I'm running it on.
=A0
Andy =A0G4JNT
2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlema= il.com>
I've now=A0started transmitting a timed=A0 beacon signal on 503.7kH= z that is=A0identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter m= onths of the last two years=A0=A0from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz, =A0and has= =A0a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.=A0 T= hese all have=A0an initial CW ident and=A0stepped power levels for aural rec= eption,=A0and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N= measurements.=A0=A0
See=A0 =A0http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons= .htm=A0 for the complete 5MHz =A0signal structure.=A0=A0For this MF tran= smission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is r= eplaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from=A030s to approx 48 seconds aft= er the start
=A0
Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring th= ese beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves= to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.
The software can be downloaded from=A0 http://www.rsgb.org/spectr= umforum/hf/beaconauto.php=A0.=A0=A0 PSK31 data can be copied with Digipa= n, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.
=A0
TIMING
The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes pas= t the quarter hour.=A0
ie=A0each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49= =A0=A0=A0=A0This time slot has been selected so that the transmissi= on do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons= - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and=20= I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with on= e of the monitoring windows.
=A0
NOTE=A0=A0 If using the=A0G3PLX software, this only=A0monitors for the=20= three 5MHz beacons at =A000, 01 and 02 minutes.
SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY=A0TO FRIG=A0THE SOFTWARE =A0to= monitor this=A0transmission at the 04 minute point.=A0=A0=A0The necessary a= lteration can be done by firstly setting=A0your PC clock accurately to the c= orrect time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..= =A0 This will make the software look for this transmission during the time= =A0window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the=A0MF transmiss= ion during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL=A0
=A0
The beacon uses the identical hardware to the=A0WSPR transmissions of= =A0the last few weeks, with the the only change being a=A0reprogramming of t= he controller PIC.=A0=A0 In fact the very same hardware was previously loane= d to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a cha= nge to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.
=A0


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