Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma02.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA023-8ba4970a1de40; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:04:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA074-8ba4970a1de40; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:04:00 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LNqDw-00033U-2V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:03:04 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LNqDv-00033L-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:03:03 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LNqDu-0004IC-FS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:03:03 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4931782bwz.4 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:02:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VmuXhu3FSOdfu81Lp6SYiR8vP3H809Uhfez0nLLitK8=; b=k+CqmyIY1skwKqZs/j4wt1olfp93zD+3VEL6nfE+cbt6LVjYQtu2fwgdrQsx7HJJkI WEX6QjoO0F0WJshSyUzRnTjrs7gE8kEDlgf4LUPmUQNEDWgx04WpBjq1Hudlb8Uv1CcW h312XOJRCXUSoLGsM2IWNbA+wGPnewy4Qk8Fg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=tJpH1jCxOv6td/JfM9crV5Jsj+GrepvyiCaqFDPQJKvU6WX4GAHYdC7yzkW/CJxqpB amxkqaxBwIeDPgbSAf4cLW+Ifq/FQS8+XobnrXGCYjWguZ3dcIJFXXnQK0VBP4c+CyWT 04Q2PQ/MyTDp3P5qzDEH36xHosD2FCm6yye/s= Received: by 10.181.199.19 with SMTP id b19mr866786bkq.191.1232118172052; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.228.10 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:02:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:02:52 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <61475.6029.qm@web24702.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4A897040EFB449659ABED6A10AFD357E@AGB> <61475.6029.qm@web24702.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: First Linear data qso G4WGT / G0NBD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m256.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) My NoV for 500kHz came through yesterday, authorising 0dBW ERP, modes FSK, PSK, MSK and TBD just as I'd asked for. It also allows ASK, but didn't specifically request that :-) This morning got the 7m Tee antenna resonant using an old Decca variometer with a few more turns added, and made a 550kHz Low Pass filter for the Tx. Have just now tested the Tx + ant at 120 Watts RF from a commercial 0.5 to 40MHz broadband PA and all works fine - apologies to anyone who saw the carrier at 503.0000000kHz for a few minutes at 1430z. I couldn't modulate at that point. Antenna measures 28 ohms loss resistance at a first quick look, but I'll measure more accurately when the weather is a bit warmer / drier! If that is the figure, then efficiency will be in the region of -25 to -23dB and with the PA wound up to maximum rate dOP of 200 Watts should get within a few dB of the power limit. Loss resistance of that antenna follows a steady progression with frequency : 73kHz 200R 137kHz 100R 502kHz 28R 1900kHz 18R That is, of course, total loss resistance including the wet tree and roof tile lossy-near field effects. Next stage is to complete the IQ converter direct from soundcard output. I'm trying to come up with a simple design that won't need much tweaking to get a decent sideband isolation. Last week tried a design with a pair of NE602 chips (similar to FIgure 3 in http://www.g4jnt.com/IQConverters.htm but it needed too much phase and amplitude adjustment to get the unwanted isolation to an acceptable -40 to -50dBc, so not really suitable for publishing. Now going to try one based around FST3126 bus switches - near enough a Softrock in reverse. For transmitting on the band I do already have a suitable upconverter, Fig 1 in the above reference, but that is over complicated for a plug-and-play construction project and uses obsolete chips. For soundcard data modes, with an audio bandwidth of no more than a few hundred Hz, a simple CR I/Q network will generate the quadrature drive to the image reject converter. For wider B/W, a more complex polyphse or allpass network is needed. Of course, if only the datamode software authors could only be persuaded to modify their code for I/Q stereo outputs, it would make linear upconverters direct to RF a whole lot easier! Come on writers, its only a few lines more code! So, nearly there with linear Tx, and an NoV that permits any mode within constraints of "reasonable bandwidth" Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/1/16 brian hodgson : > Hi Graham - > > Make that 4! I've modified my TS850 to generate SSB at 500 kHz and use a > homebrew linear PA to produce 30 watts peak RF. > > Have been off air for a while during a shack rebuild and broken aerial but > am back in business. > > Brian - G3YKB > > --- On Thu, 15/1/09, Graham wrote: > > > > G0NBD Refurbished Military and Marine > > M0BMU His own design Linear class E system > > G4WGT Classic linear HF/MF home made transverter > > >