Return-Path: Received: from rly-de02.mx.aol.com (rly-de02.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.138]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE051-4bc495163e91e8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE027-4bc495163e91e8; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:19:22 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaw-0000ue-TX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFFaw-0000uV-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFFav-0004wZ-Eh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:18 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so10392738bwz.4 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=14LwNep2WF1DY12CQLe+DpIEUizQ/4xfrOBVYUEoA2A=; b=JzeAFVJzhqwOMW1hKW4iK9vZKxOc8D4UOKRlgKXcD5UbP6Uj+OlsR4e5Fe5cH7Acyo RjlBO6lKN3H1liyFkvxLkE/w65MaXA9pvIiRdEU8gwRPvvWZUbbR+iUjk25mfpRItaQw AoiCT+4c2PqaBKaabTJxn6EI1LF08+DuFkw2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xo9MmLT7wXC4xpMAk2HqGhCPInG3j/RRlpXJ8wJQzLIlvfrLM7MLL/BBzuYRwnXSKn 2LZpUZFgmsPwOg0PX+B937h77g99y4mFgSkXz8BFKaxYu6n+wRTRZ7nNwN4z3PDBpKOq zB9yD7mjhcftXrke7Z66xLVa6fQ9ZM9gIDaxs= Received: by 10.181.13.19 with SMTP id q19mr2890749bki.53.1230070748649; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.208.4 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:19:08 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000701c96492$04944b00$4201a8c0@home> <002201c96495$a77afe10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000b01c9649c$6066dec0$4201a8c0@home> <000501c96533$75ad5100$4201a8c0@home> <00a201c96539$eed9c440$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d229.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) No, the receiver can demodulate all the 6Hz-wide signals that may be present within the 200Hz Rx search bandwidth. The operational Rx bandwidth for receiving purposes is 6Hz, generated by the DSP filtering, so interfering signals within the 200Hz bandwidth will not corrupt the wanted signal unless it actually overlaps it, and places enough jamming energy into the 6Hz passband. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2008/12/23 mal hamilton : > Tnx Jim for the info but in actual fact 200 hz is required and not only 6 hz > as some have specified, in other words if there was other acty within the > 200 hz bandwidth it would corrupt the target signal. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:19 PM > Subject: LF: Re: WSPR > > >> Dear Mal, LF Group, >> >> The transmited WSPR signal has a bandwidth of about 6Hz. >> >> SSB mode is used for transmission in order to translate the soundcard >> audio >> to the appropriate RF frequency. But the signal bandwidth remains 6Hz >> >> At the receiver, a 200Hz bandwidth is extracted from the receive audio by >> the DSP routines in the PC. This allows the transceiver to switch from TX >> to >> RX without changing modes. (In my case, I have configured the rig to use >> the 250Hz CW filter as the "narrow SSB" filter, so the RX bandwidth is >> only >> 250Hz anyway). >> >> This 200Hz of bandwidth is then sub-divided into numerous narrow 6Hz >> sub-channels, that can be simultaneously processed to receive lots of WSPR >> beacons operating simultaneously on slightly offset frequencies within the >> overall 200Hz range. That's the beauty of DSP. >> >> Overall, this means one transceiver can alternately transmit a WSPR beacon >> signal and then receive many different WSPR signals within a 200Hz range, >> during different 2 minute time slots. >> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >> 73 de M0BMU >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 > 11:23 AM > > >