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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Paul and Markus, the chaos at 0200utc seems to be confirmed bei Pauls phase measurements: 2014-01-19_02:00:00 0.23 fT -171.5deg, with 171,5dgr as the biggest anomality. Markus, the aerial hasnt been changed, but the output pwr has been rised by 100W to now 600Wrms. the antenna current is unknown. I lost up to now three instruments by trying. they changed to coal. GL Uwe Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 19.01.2014 13:18 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Kopie: paul@abelian.netcom.co.uk Betreff: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270.004 Hz [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [194.25.41.13 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 25586c7917467b5c110472bf48f6f4f3 Subject: Re: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270.004 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----C096C5403EA646339CB254D204025E6A" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------C096C5403EA646339CB254D204025E6A Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul and Markus, the chaos at 0200utc seems to be confirmed bei Pauls phase measurement= s: 2014-01-19_02:00:00 0=2E23 fT -171=2E5deg, with 171,5dgr as the bigg= est anomality=2E=20 Markus, the aerial hasnt been changed, but the output pwr has been ris= ed by 100W to now 600Wrms=2E the antenna current is unknown=2E I lost up to now three instruments b= y trying=2E they changed to coal=2E=20 GL Uwe=20 Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Gesendet: 19=2E01=2E2014 13:18 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Kopie: paul@abelian=2Enetcom=2Eco=2Euk Betreff: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz=20 Attached=A0are=A0four stacked spectrograms of Uwe's signal as received = by Paul Nicholson, DF6NM, OK2BVG and=A0PA1SDB (top to bottom),=A0scaled= to the same time and similar frequency scales=2E The steps around 2 UT= =A0seem to have=A0left a gap at OK2BVG=A0and DF6NM=2E=A0In a direct mai= l, Paul has sent a series of phase measurements in half hour intervals,= =A0which seem to corroberate the assumption of a phase step sometime ar= ound 2 UT=2E=20 The improvements of Uwe's signal at=A0PA1SDB over the years is indeed i= mpressive=2E Uwe, can you perhaps comment on your antenna size and curr= ent, then and now?=20 Very nice work!=20 Best 73, =20 Markus (DF6NM)=20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail=2Ede =20 Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:49 PM=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg =20 Subject: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz =20 Hi Peter,=20 There has been chaos around 0200utc:=20 2014-01-19 02:00:12=A0 PPS zero-crossing too flat =20 2014-01-19 02:00:12=A0 Timestamp didn't pass plausibility check ! =20 =2E=2E=2E=20 I don=92t know why=2E seems most of the satellites where asleep=2E=20 until coming night=20 Uwe/dj8wx=A0=20 Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Gesendet: 19=2E01=2E2014 11:01 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Betreff: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz=20 Hello Uwe, Markus, VLF !=20 I just took a "look back in time" in my 2012 and=A02013 log's (www=2Eqs= l=2Enet/pa1sdb) and I think over the last two years there is a large rise in signal level when I take a look at DJ8WX his signal=2E The tra= ce in some saved Spectograms in 2012 and 2013 are=A0not that=20 impressive as they are right now=2E=A0=20 Look at the trace=A0in the spectogram above=2E Impressive !!!=20 I=A0have to do research if those "glitches" are at the TX or RX side=2E= =2E=2E=20 Do you recognise that glitch at about 2 h Uwe ? (in your debug log ?)=20 I'm not at home this weekend, so I can't tel you the exact time right n= ow=2E=20 =A073's Peter - PA1SDB=A0=20 www=2Eqsl=2Enet/pa1sdb=20 ----- Original Message ----- =20 From: Markus Vester =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg =20 Cc: Paul =20 Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:01 AM=20 Subject: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz =20 Hi Uwe,=20 great signal here, better than ever! On my grabber=A0http://www=2Edf6nm= =2Ede/vlf/vlfgrabber=2Ehtm=A0it's well visible in 478 uHz, and even tra= ces in the 3=2E8 mHz "600" window during the early morning hours=2E The= =A0SNR would probably have been sufficient for an Opds-4H detection, bu= t I'm glad you just left the carrier on=2E=20 I had fixed my frequency offset and you were spot on 8270=2E004, albeit= with occasional transmit phase glitches widening=A0the 42 uHz trace a = bit=2E Sorry about the apparent 0=2E8 mHz up shift after around 3 UT, i= t=A0is an artefact=A0caused by=A0a=A0too narrow setting of samplerate=A0= tracking tolerance (0=2E2 ppm)=2E=20 Thanks very much for this test! It's a pity that Mal hadn't left his RX= on overnight=2E=20 Best 73,=20 Markus (DF6NM)=20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail=2Ede =20 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:56 PM=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg =20 Subject: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz =20 Hi Markus, just now reading your mail=2E the switch off time was some min after y= ou sent it=2E=2E sri for that=2E now the TX will stay on the air until tomorrow abt 0900utc=2E=20 Hopefully Mal reads this=2E =20 GL =20 Uwe=20 Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Gesendet: 17=2E01=2E2014 22:36 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Betreff: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz=20 Uwe is again producing very good traces on the European grabbers=2E=A0E= ven in my noisy location I am now getting=A0a nice peak in=A0the 42 uHz= FFT (slightly=A0higher due to=A0an uncorrected=A00=2E25 mHz error in m= y frequency readout)=2E=20 Uwe,=A0do you intend to stay on longer tonight?=20 Best 73,=20 Markus (DF6NM) ------C096C5403EA646339CB254D204025E6A Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Paul and Markus,

the chaos at 0200utc seems to be confirmed bei Pauls phase measurements: 2014-01-19_02:00:00 0=2E23 fT -171=2E5de= g, with 171,5dgr as the biggest anomality=2E

Markus, the aerial hasnt been changed, but the output pwr has been rise= d by 100W to now 600Wrms=2E
the antenna current is unknown=2E I lost up to now three instruments by= trying=2E they changed to coal=2E
GL
Uwe
Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Gesendet: 19=2E01=2E2014 13:18
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Kopie: paul@abelian=2Enetcom=2Eco=2Euk
Betreff: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz

Attached = ;are four stacked spectrograms of Uwe's signal as received by Paul Nicholson, DF6NM, OK2BVG and PA1S= DB (top to bottom), scaled to the same time and similar frequency scales=2E= The steps around 2 UT seem to have left a gap at OK2BVG and DF6NM=2E=  In a direct mail, Paul has sent a series of phase measurements in half hou= r intervals, which seem to corroberate the assumption of a phase ste= p sometime around 2 UT=2E
 =
The improveme= nts of Uwe's signal at PA1SDB over the years is indeed impressive=2E Uwe, can you perhaps comment on = your antenna size and current, then and now?
 =
Very nice wor= k!
 =
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM= )
 =

Sent:= Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:49 PM
Subje= ct: Re: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz

Hi Peter,
There has bee= n chaos around 0200utc:
 =
2014-01-19 02:00:12&n= bsp; PPS zero-crossing too flat
2014-01-19 02:00:12  Timestam= p didn't pass plausibility check !
=2E=2E=2E
 =
I don’t= know why=2E seems most of the satellites where asleep=2E
 =
until coming = night
Uwe/dj8wx&nbs= p;

Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2E= org
Gesendet: 19=2E01=2E2014 11:01
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Betreff: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz

Hello Uwe,= Markus, VLF !
 
<= /div>
I just took a "look back in time" in my 2012 and 2013 log's (ww= w=2Eqsl=2Enet/pa1sdb) and I think over the last two years there is a large
rise in signal level when I take a look at DJ8WX his signal=2E The trace in some saved Spectograms in 2012= and 2013 are not that
impressive= as they are right now=2E 
 
Look at th= e trace in the spectogram above=2E Impressive !!!

I have to do research if those "glitches" are at the TX or RX side=2E=2E=2E
Do you rec= ognise that glitch at about 2 h Uwe ? (in your debug log ?)
I'm not at= home this weekend, so I can't tel you the exact time right now=2E
 
 73's= Peter - PA1SDB 
 
----- Original Message ---= --
Cc: Paul
Sent: Sun= day, January 19, 2014 10:01 AM
Subject: = Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz
<= br />
H= i Uwe,
<= /span> = ;
great signal here, better than ever! On my grabb= er http://www=2Edf6nm=2Ede/= vlf/vlfgrabber=2Ehtm it's well visible in 478 uHz, and even traces in the 3=2E8 mHz "600" window = during the early morning hours=2E The SNR would probably have been sufficient= for an Opds-4H detection, but I'm glad you just left the carrier on=2E
<= /span> = ;
I had fixed my frequency offset and you were spot on 8270=2E004, albeit w= ith occasional transmit phase glitches widening the 42 uHz trace a bit= =2E Sorry about the apparent 0=2E8 mHz up shift after around 3 UT, it is an artefact caused by a too narrow setting of samplerate tracking tolerance (0=2E2 ppm)=2E
<= /span> 
T= hanks very much for this test! It's a pity that Mal hadn't left his RX on overnight=2E
<= /span> = ;
B= est 73,
M= arkus (DF6NM)
<= /span>
 
<= strong>Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:56 PM
<= strong>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg<= span style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 13px;">
<= strong>Subject: Re: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz
<= /span>
H= i Markus,
just now reading your mail=2E the switch off time was some min after you sent it=2E=2E
sri for that=2E
now the TX will stay on the air until tomorrow abt 0900utc=2E
Hopefully Mal reads this=2E
GL
U= we

Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Gesendet: 17=2E01=2E2014 22:36
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Betreff: VLF: DJ8WX 8270=2E004 Hz

 
 
 
 
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