Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12852 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2000 00:01:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 13 Apr 2000 00:01:31 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12fWzG-0002cQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:55:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.70]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12fWzB-0002cF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:55:53 +0100 Received: from G0MRF@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id l.c5.407ddb9 (4366) for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:55:02 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: G0MRF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:55:01 EDT Subject: Re: LF: (More) Nonsense from Kev To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 32 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In a message dated 4/12/00 10:16:44 PM GMT Daylight Time, g3kev@netscapeonline.co.uk writes: << Very few signals generated by such amplifiers and used by radio amateurs have a pure sine wave output after one 5 pole LPF, except at very low power levels, >> Hello. I think you will find that the relative level of harmonics (dBc) will depend on the characteristics of the LPF and source / load impedances i.e. the correct filter terminating impedance, and not the applied power levels. Equally: The relative level of radiated harmonics (dBc) is generally speaking independent of antenna whether it's at 130 feet or a long wire a "few feet off the ground" "amateurs....push class D/E amplifier too hard" - With square wave drive the harder they are driven, the better they are. No one has a pure sinewave output. A low pass filter will not remove key clicks as they are within the passband of the LPF. 90% of multikilowatt MF broadcasters use class D/E etc. Surprisingly, the UK amateur radio licence allows up to 1% of energy to fall outside the amateur bands, so this would not be of any interest to the RIS. In anycase 250Hz is 'inband' and would be considered a problem to be resolved by the band's users. - If it was considered a problem at all. Using a computer and spectran / gram clearly demonstrates the larger bandwidth occupied by fast CW transmissions. As the band is very narrow, should we put an upper speed limit on CW - to limit the occupied bandwidth? (Hi) Goodness Mal. They only had a mast bigger than yours. "So many negative vibes" - Donald Sutherland. 73 David