Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 20ADE38000091; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RD5r0-0001f6-IG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:44:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RD5qy-0001ex-F6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:44:32 +0100 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35] helo=smtp.pobox.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RD5qv-0005F9-Tb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:44:32 +0100 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82FF550E for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:44:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:message-id; s=sasl; bh=ysL2H6ufVf8LqswW4 ZY7fTjXIfI=; b=T48fFqeiTY+WK6C38CjX0w4r9p9q10m0X9VMhQ6kQExsFhKVE cNr0ZYqs/JU2D13p/C+PWN2WtiJ0hqXy0gfBLuEF+FoTZNu3j2MegLNoXa9p6/xA QasQnWoXhjqAu1NaKUrVs490AqxcZedu2AXkK2GWyuFlM7QeqI6fwAfUvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:message-id; q=dns; s=sasl; b=sTCMIKgwf/4 a/bcIY+P8ogQjKE5AMCqg5Gq/jBLVOhZYBEISW1+ha9dz5VOvO0yE/gtuba2yczQ 6rBoNLM+qKbCFqCBE2pLhtJo/ug3t84ghqFQv0Jnb6Zr+XFRYoH0Lo5F3FTK6T44 hADES1ThDp5YvdOceaKxpwkIdhiaWO4I= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEC8550D for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.pobox.com (unknown [208.72.237.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F0F3550C for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:44:20 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:44:20 -0400 From: Elton A Sanders To: In-Reply-To: <002d01cc86eb$6f677730$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <20111009.155855.1944.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <002d01cc86eb$6f677730$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Message-ID: X-Sender: radiodog77@pobox.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-RC1 X-Pobox-Relay-ID: C15EB854-F2E9-11E0-AD2E-9DB42E706CDE-16367692!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com DomainKey-Status: good X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: mains wires X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:464647808:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d012.1 ; domain : pobox.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41184e925c5817bc X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none If it was plugged into US 230v both Black and White would be hot. Mains feed here is 2 hots and Neutral hot to Neutral 115v hot to hot 230v (feed is from a center tapped transformer on the pole). WB5MMB On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:25:02 -0000, mal hamilton wrote: > Bob > If you look at a Dentron 2500 amplifier on the cct diagram the 230v > mains cable, WHITE wire goes to the ON/OFF switch on amplifier then > primary of HT transformer which to me is HOT and BLACK wire goes > directly to the other side of primary winding, NEUTRAL and GREEN to > chassis. > In the UK the switch is always in the LIVE (hot) wire and NEUTRAL > direct to the appliance except it happens to be a double switch. > > UK appliance BROWN live, BLUE neutral, plus an earth wire (3 wire > appliance) > mal/g3kev > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> Sunday, October 09, 2011 7:48 PM >> Re: LF: mains wires >> >> what I use to keep track >> >> Black is hot white is not >> >> Bob K3DJC >> >> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:09:09 -0000 "mal hamilton" writes: >> >>> LF >>> I have a USA amplifier with 230v input. The mains wires are >>> BLACK, WHITE, and GREEN >>> >>> The cct diagram shows White as the live wire with amplifier mains >>> switch in this line, Black goes to the other end directly to >>> transformer primary >>> and Green to earth. >>> but >>> according to USA info the Black wire should be Live and White >>> Neutral. >>> >>> So beware !!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> de g3kev >> >> ____________________________________________________________