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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Fri, 12 Apr 2019, DK7FC wrote: > Good idea. When do you want to do that? Is the equipment available already? > We could make a sked at night :-) No, i have to order an audio injector card, and find a way to reliably connect to the internet (whis is not easy in this location). 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Is the equipment available already? > We could make a sked at night :-) No, i have to order an audio injector card, and find a way to reliably connect to the internet (whis is not easy in this location). This is a project for vacation. > Pity that so few OMs are interested. The signal is 100x stronger than from my > E field antenna... Yes, pity. Maybe you could run some tests at 8270Hz, so that more people could receive it. More stations would be interesting, because i think that the ground dipole pattern is not what you would expect (the null might not be where it is in a dipole, which would be absurd btw): During your previous tests on 8270Hz i had a very good signal compared to Paul, even though the dipole location should favor Paul. Looking from your location Paul and i am almost 90 degrees apart, and the distance is similar. During our tests in Gdynia we also wanted to orient the antenna to favor Paul, but it turned out that it was rotated 90 degrees. The null should be in Paul's direction, and maximum signal in my direction, but Paul received the signal and i didn't at 1/3 of the distance (of course Paul has a great rx setup, but maybe this is not the only factor). More rx stations could give a better idea how the antenna pattern looks like. > PS: My E field is coming from the forest too. But you need to be on the top > of a tree or you need much C (wire) in a region with low tree-density. Not doable unless i put a 20m antenna tower there (which i won't). And there is no region with low tree density. VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF