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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Got a decode with good Eb/N0. Message not shown, but confirmed by Stefan. found rank 0 ber 3.4896e-01 Eb/N0 4.1 M -8.871037960e-01 [x] ps [ 0 0 0 0 0] carrier phase: 1.8 deg carrier Eb/N0: 6.1 dB carrier Es/N0: -9.20 dB carrier S/N: 13.63 dB in 21.7 uHz, -33.00 dB in 1Hz, -66.98 dB in 2.5kHz elapsed 43 [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: fb3e28a759dea7e01d34d3fe7de7ae98 Subject: Re: VLF: 300 mA on 6470 Hz Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="17435139-1640645402-1507187694=:734" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --17435139-1640645402-1507187694=:734 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-15; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Got a decode with good Eb/N0. Message not shown, but confirmed by Stefan. found rank 0 ber 3.4896e-01 Eb/N0 4.1 M -8.871037960e-01 [x] ps [ 0 0 0 0 0] carrier phase: 1.8 deg carrier Eb/N0: 6.1 dB carrier Es/N0: -9.20 dB carrier S/N: 13.63 dB in 21.7 uHz, -33.00 dB in 1Hz, -66.98 dB in 2.5kHz elapsed 43 VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, DK7FC wrote: > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:50:40 +0200 > From: DK7FC > Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: VLF: 300 mA on 6470 Hz > > Hi Paul, > > Am 04.10.2017 11:07, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > You may as well use 8K19A or even 4K15A. > > If you look at the big table at the end of > >  http://abelian.org/ebnaut/ops.shtml > > you can see there's no further improvement in success > rate for 6 bit payloads (1 char plus zero CRC = 6 bits). > > The reason appears to be the payload is simply not long > enough to make full use of the longer constraint lengths. > > > OK, so i'm changing to: > > f = 6470.005000 Hz > Start time: 04.October.2017  17:00:00 UTC > Symbol period: 240 s > Characters: 1 > CRC bits: 0 > Coding 8K19A > Duration: 12h48min > Antenna current: 300 mA > > > For some reason, the signal last night was about 6dB weaker. > > Interesting. And for some reason, the signal was much stronger last night at SQ5BPF. Did you see it? What could be > the reason? Just the noise blanker / background QRN? > The message will give you/us and 3rd impression about SNR and phase. A 10 deg phase variation between last night and > the night before seems already to be quite high, relative to what we observed at 8270. Maybe we will learn a bit > about propagation by that. > The 1 char message is for Jacek mainly. The chance for a decode will be high i think. Then i thought i try another > (daily) 12 char message for Jacek before we can try the 100 char message. We've already done quite much on that 46 km > band, so i wouldn't spend to much time there, 2 weeks maybe. Then QSY to 58 km where we can stretch the record list a > bit by transferring 100 chars to you Paul. > > 73, Stefan > > > > --17435139-1640645402-1507187694=:734--