Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id vA4Fx9Xm031461 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 16:59:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eB0kd-00059X-I3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:52:51 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eB0kc-00059O-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:52:50 +0000 Received: from simone.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eB0kZ-00034g-68 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:52:48 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by simone.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vA4FqM3V006732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:22:40 -0230 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:22:22 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <40168a26-8991-6998-e541-585a8575ad32@abelian.org> Message-ID: References: <15f68ccfd03-c09-1dcf0@webjas-vaa134.srv.aolmail.net> <40168a26-8991-6998-e541-585a8575ad32@abelian.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: FB WX today so the far halyard on the rotated L was taken in for another increase in the average height of the aerial. This is the first change since 25 Oct. The aerial current did not increase and the inductance for peak current actually increased which seems a bit strange. Perhaps the trees are to blame! [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 64a43ebf6189d3fbac7adf77f3718769 Subject: Re: VLF: VO1NA in Todmorden on 8270 Hz - also in Amberg? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false FB WX today so the far halyard on the rotated L was taken in for another increase in the average height of the aerial. This is the first change since 25 Oct. The aerial current did not increase and the inductance for peak current actually increased which seems a bit strange. Perhaps the trees are to blame! Thank-you for the reports, Paul. With more tinkering, the lower winter QRN and luck, Stefan, Markus and Jacek will have success with the tiny signal. The phase seems to be jumping about a bit. This could be due to the wx as the feedback to SL is still via a 1k instead of a pick-up antenna. Let's see what happens tonight and then we can try some more EbNaut. 73 Joe VO1NA On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Paul Nicholson wrote: > > Recent reception of VO1NA carrier in Todmorden, UK. Measurements > in 34.7 uHz, daytime 10:00 to 18:00, nighttime 23:00 to 07:00. > > H-field (new) E-field > 29th no signal detected > 29/30th 8.89 dB 0.04 fT -47.5 deg 8.08 dB -61.5 deg > 30th no signal detected > 30/31st 10.60 dB 0.03 fT -72.4 deg 7.90 dB -50.4 deg > 31st no signal detected > 31/1st no signal detected > 1st no signal detected > 1/2nd 13.18 dB 0.04 fT -58.8 deg 13.36 dB -65.2 deg > 2nd no signal detected > 2/3rd 14.19 dB 0.06 fT -89.2 deg 11.03 dB -82.4 deg > > I don't see any daytime signal at all recently. Nighttime signal > is quite repeatable, except for 31/1st when there was no trace > of the carrier - perhaps it was off? > > The last two nights the signal is distinctly stronger, did you > make some improvements Joe? > >> Paul mentioned 2.4 and 1.6 electrons on the E probe last spring. >> Are these numbers per photon? > > No, the total induced charge on the E-field probe. At radio and audio > frequencies, photons have absolutely miniscule energy. > > If the recent night S/N continues, combined E and H receivers make it > reasonable to try 5 chars of 16K23A with CRC-18 and 26 second symbols, > starting at 23:00 and finishing 07:05:20. Expected Eb/N0 would be > around 0dB. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > >