Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1181; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, NO_REAL_NAME,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u25JHhwm023474 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 20:17:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1acHdt-0000IX-LU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Mar 2016 19:13:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1acHdt-0000IO-7g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Mar 2016 19:13:33 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1acHdr-0007rJ-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 05 Mar 2016 19:13:32 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u25JDQ0A011601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 15:43:26 -0330 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 15:43:26 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <56DB2786.5080700@abelian.org> Message-ID: References: <1534380609c-5b40-bf9a@webprd-m59.mail.aol.com> <56DB2786.5080700@abelian.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 0317e2ac8ed27149e57223a21580246d Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - IZ7SLZ Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7210 My congrats to Markus, Domenico and you, Paul. My only contribution was to throw the silly TX PSP toggle switch! Will be QSX 137.171- 137.173 kHz with ARGO tonight. 73 Joe VO1NA On Sat, 5 Mar 2016, Paul Nicholson wrote: > Markus wrote: > >> Despite the fact that no carrier trace was visible in >> Domenico's 0.48 mHz spectrogram ... > >> 1:40 UT produced a single good decode of VO1NA in South Italy > > Well done, I reckon that to be 5418 km. I expect that record > will stand for some time. > > The signal was -45dB in a 2.5kHz audio bandwidth and had a dB > or two to spare. I don't think it would have decoded with > one second symbols. > > Decodes at DF6NM 2016-03-02/03: > >> start car. sym. offs. >> UT dB dB mHz >> 23:30 11.9 7.9 0 >> 00:00 12.9 10.0 -1.5 >> 00:30 16.1 13.6 -1.5 >> 01:00 11.6 8.3 -1 >> 01:30 16.9 14.2 -0.6 >> 02:00 10.7 8.3 -0.6 >> 02:30 17.9 14.4 -0.6 >> 03:00 14.1 10.8 -0.6 >> 03:30 5.7 4.4 -0.8 >> 04:00 5.2 5.1 -0.8 >> 04:30 3.6 4.0 -0.8 > > Signals look to be 10dB up compared with recent nights. We're > seeing the now familiar discrepancy between Eb/N0 calculated > from the carrier S/N and the BER which suggests the phase > isn't very stable and these tests are probably at the limit > of what can be done at MF with message durations of this length. > > Markus is probably right with the suggestion that there is a > maximum message duration related to the propagation spreading > and it is likely to be typically just a very few minutes but > I wonder how it varies with distance. > > This achievement represents considerable effort and patience > by Markus. Few of these decodes would have been successful > without spending a lot of time searching for the correct > frequency offset. For example a 0.6mHz offset is nearly a > whole cycle of phase shift on the 752*2 second messages which > is well beyond the range of the phase search of the decoder. > > Today I put up another 150m metres of wire here. I would > have got more done but for a tendency to sit amongst the trees > taking in the winter scenery in the sunshine. It is very nice > to be in the woods putting up wire and only hunger and darkness > forced me back indoors. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > >