Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dl01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dl01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.74.207]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMC022-a8d44da893fe2c8; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:52:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C039E380000A8; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QAo75-0002iX-7V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:51:27 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QAo74-0002iO-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:51:26 +0100 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QAo71-0004uL-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:51:26 +0100 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p3FIpDLJ009896 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:21:13 -0230 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:21:13 -0230 (NDT) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <669371.26474.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1404511163.2435661.1302852318538.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb049> <669371.26474.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio? Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1719232024-890789687-1302893473=:30225" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4acf4da893fa0483 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ---1719232024-890789687-1302893473=:30225 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Pete, Group. I have tried for a year without luck to get authorisation to transmit=20 below 9 kHz. Even though this portion of the spectrum is not allocated, it is still illegal to transmit there from what information is available. 73 Joe VO1NA On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, M0FMT wrote: > Hi Horst It is a sad fact but true. To some extent the UK=A0authority seems to be slightly more enlighten than= some in=20 EU. =A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX ________________________________ From: Horst St=F6cker To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, 15 April, 2011 8:25:18 Subject: Re: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio? I do not know the situation in Switzerland, but I bet it is similar as in= =20 Germany. You must not choose any frequency that seems not to be in use. Even below= 9kHz=20 the situation was not quite clear for many years. To transmit on 17,2 kHz you would have to apply for a special licence - as= for=20 500kHz e.g. But I am in doubt if you would get it. All other ways would be= =20 illegal. BTW transmitting below 9kHz or 500kHz is NOT HAM Radio in germany - no Ham= Radio=20 frequencies. Officially you must not work crossband - 500kHz / 3650kHz for= =20 example. Its a strange world. Even the DARC will see things this way. QSOs= and=20 QSLs are not valid for any contest or award. They prefer a definition by= laws=20 instead of physics ;-)) But is there any wonder? 90% of HAM Radio is rag chewing on 80m SSB.=20 Experimenters are a minority. How many hams have a computer with soundcard and how many hams are watchin= g for=20 SAQ? About 250 have confirmed the last transmissions. Unfortunately there= is=20 very few interest beside the mainstream. Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN=A0=A0 Schon geh=F6rt? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die=A0=A0=A0 Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar ---1719232024-890789687-1302893473=:30225--