Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.25]) by air-mf08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF083-8bf74bf4382b61; Wed, 19 May 2010 15:12:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C2A973800014D; Wed, 19 May 2010 15:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OEog7-0000i5-HE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 20:11:39 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OEog7-0000hw-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 20:11:39 +0100 Received: from 113-mo2-8.acn.waw.pl ([62.121.95.113] helo=paranoid.lipkowski.org) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OEog5-0006Q0-C1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 20:11:39 +0100 Received: from paranoid.lipkowski.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o4JJBbSb024904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 21:11:37 +0200 Received: from localhost (sq5bpf@localhost) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id o4JJBbA1024901 for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 21:11:37 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoid.lipkowski.org: sq5bpf owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:11:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Jacek Lipkowski To: rsgb In-Reply-To: <008f01caf784$779a11d0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Message-ID: References: <008f01caf784$779a11d0$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score-sq5bpf: -2.601 () BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Alpha dashes Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60194bf438281c9e X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) On Wed, 19 May 2010, mal hamilton wrote: > In plain english who can receive the alpha dashes and at what strength > around EU. unfortunately they are down now, so i can't tell you what is the s/n now. but it's hard not to receive these stations. with an e-field antenna (or with a h-field antenna but at some distance from powerlines) you can hear them without any downconversion, provided that your headphones (and ears :) have high enough frequency cutoff. with downconversion to 800Hz i would give it 599 if it were cw (actually they sometimes transmit a marker in cw) a much better test of antennas would be if people can receive SAQ with the key up (when it is not transmitting) - i don't know what the output power is, but lower than ALFA, probably a few kW. jacek