X-GM-THRID: 1243555748174712152 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.87.11 with SMTP id k11cs130856wxb; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr436883buf.1185961900459; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 32si534584nfu.2007.08.01.02.51.36; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IGAlh-0005Wu-4E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:45:25 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IGAlg-0005Wl-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:45:24 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IGAlf-000848-C0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:45:24 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE27FDA4E3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:45:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:45:24 +0100 (BST) From: John GM4SLV X-X-Sender: gm4slv@lurcher.twatt.local To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <005001c7d3fe$e4786d80$6400a8c0@oem17oeylz9on8> Message-ID: References: <005001c7d3fe$e4786d80$6400a8c0@oem17oeylz9on8> X-Mailer: PC-Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: newbie help Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 391 On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Paul Tomlinson wrote: > As a newbie to this band, I'm wondering how best to have to adapt my > existing HF antenna to work on 500KHz or make a new one .... any help > please would be greatly appreciated. Hello Paul, As another newcomer to LF/MF I've been having great fun learning a new way of looking at antennas and transmitters in order to get on 500kHz. For an antenna the accepted norm is a vertical, as tall as physically possible, with some "top-loading" to increase the capacity and increase the radiation resistance. These aerials are always going to need some form of inductive loading to resonate them and some form of ground system to work against to increase the efficiency. The ground can take the form of radials (as many as possible and as long as possible - the key seems to be to get as many directly in the vicinity of the base of antenna as possible) and/or earth rods. My initial antenna was made by running a wire up a 7m fibreglass fishing pole held up with guys and a top loading wire about 12m long running to a support on the chimney. This is also referred to as an "Inverted L" but the main radiating/receiving element is the vertical section. I resonated it initially by winding a coil of around 1.5mH on a pice of 4" soil pipe and tuned by a variable capacitor of around 0-500pF - tuning for max noise on receive. This arrangement is unsuitable for transmitting due to the high voltages developed across the high reactances of the tuning components! I heard plenty of signals (and saw more on QRSS-3) from my location in the Shetland Islands so I decided to apply for a NoV and built a transmitter. The loading coil was then replaced by a variometer of about 500-800uH range to remove the need for a variable capacitor and a tapped ferrite matching transformer to allow me to both tune for resonance and match to 50 ohms for the TX. For guidance about LF/MF antennas I found ON7YD's guide (meant for 136kHz but applicable to any LF/MF application) to be extremely useful. It's available here :- http://wireless.org.uk/on7yd As for receiving - many normal amateur rigs are a bit deaf down at 500kHz so unless you've a good communications receiver that is well specified for MF and below, some sort of pre-amp or receive converter might be a good idea. I use an AR7030 which works very well. I wonder if you've heard anything on 500 yet, even with just your normal HF antenna? Signals might be weak but as long as you're withing a hundred miles or so of a few stations you should here something - especially if you try software like Argo or Spectran to "observe" the band - this is a good way of seeing very low level signals that you can't hear aurally. Good luck and keep asking questions - that's what I did and I've now got my NoV and have had a couple of contacts. Further TX and antenna work put me off the air for the last 2 weeks but I'm almost ready for another foray. Cheers, John GM4SLV Shetland Is IP90gg