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To: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:03:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Loran carrier [was 137kHz QRSS30 beaconing still - reports appreciated] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01CC0782.819CEDB0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d221.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4dbc798434de X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CC0782.819CEDB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Gary and Markus. Loran is still proving useful as a calibration aid! 73, Dave G3WCB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 30 April 2011 15:36 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: 137kHz QRSS30 beaconing still - reports appreciated Hi Dave, Roger, LF, Dave wrote :- The line appearing at 137676.8 (137676.5 actual) is a mystery - maybe it's a Loran line. I have a spread sheet which some one compiled (can't remember who) which shows your line as being a Loran line at 137676.42Hz. Spread sheet attached for anyone who may find it useful. I am not sure what the right hand columns refer to. Looks like Marcus just pipped me to it. 73 Gary - G4WGT. On 30 April 2011 14:22, Dave G3WCB. wrote: Roger, LF, Latest screen grab attached. I switched to my 1.2m tuned loop, and your signal improved by at least 3dB, maybe as much as 6 dB. See attached screenshot. BTW, I make your frequency to be 137676.0. I have a small frequency error which makes signals read high by 0.3 Hz. The line at 137680.40 is a locally generated signal in 137680.0, which is pretty accurate. The line appearing at 137676.8 (137676.5 actual) is a mystery - maybe it's a Loran line. How many watts are you puttting into your loop? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Roger Lapthorn Sent: 30 April 2011 12:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 137kHz QRSS30 beaconing still - reports appreciated My QRSS30 (slow CW) LF beacon will continue until this evening. Only one report so far G3WCB at 101km. Message: XBM in QRSS30, pause, then G3XBM in 10wpm Freq: 137.6748kHz ERP: 50uW (antenna 80sq m vertical loop) Location: JO02dg, Burwell Cambs Any reports and screen grabs would be much appreciated. 73s Roger G3XBM -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CC0782.819CEDB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks=20 Gary and Markus.
 
Loran=20 is still proving useful as a calibration aid!
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary= -=20 G4WGT
Sent: 30 April 2011 15:36
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: 137kHz= QRSS30=20 beaconing still - reports appreciated

Hi Dave,= Roger, LF,

Dave wrote :-
The line appearing at 137676.8=20 (137676.5 actual) is a mystery - maybe it's a Loran line.
I= have a spread=20 sheet which some one compiled (can't remember who) which shows your= line as=20 being a Loran line at 137676.42Hz.
Spr= ead sheet=20 attached for anyone who may find it useful. I am not sure what the= right hand=20 columns refer to.
Loo= ks like Marcus=20 just pipped me to it.
73<= /FONT>
Gary - G4WGT.



On 30 April 2011 14:22, Dave G3WCB. <= ganymede444@btopenworld.com>=20 wrote:
Roger, LF,= =20
 
Latest scre= en grab=20 attached. I switched to my 1.2m tuned loop, and your signal improv= ed by at=20 least 3dB, maybe as much as 6 dB. See attached screenshot.
 
BTW, I make= your frequency=20 to be 137676.0. I have a small frequency error which makes signals= read high=20 by 0.3 Hz. The line at 137680.40 is a locally generated signal in= 137680.0,=20 which is pretty accurate.
 
The line ap= pearing at=20 137676.8 (137676.5 actual) is a mystery - maybe it's a Loran=20 line.
 
How many wa= tts are you=20 puttting into your loop?
 
73, Dave G3= WCB=20 IO91RM
 
 
-----Or= iginal=20 Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org]On Behalf Of=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent: 30 April 2011 12:16
To:= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject:= LF:=20 137kHz QRSS30 beaconing still - reports appreciated

My=20 QRSS30 (slow CW) LF beacon will continue until this evening. Onl= y one=20 report so far G3WCB at 101km.

Message:    &nbs= p; =20 XBM in QRSS30, pause, then G3XBM in 10wpm
Freq:=20           &nbs= p;=20 137.6748kHz
ERP:=20           &nbs= p; 50uW=20 (antenna 80sq m vertical loop)
Location:    &n= bsp; =20 JO02dg, Burwell Cambs

Any reports and screen gra= bs would=20 be much appreciated.

73s
Roger G3XBM


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