Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25075 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2005 23:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 23:23:46 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DAcUk-0004m5-Fu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:27:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DAcUj-0004lO-Fg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:27:37 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DAcTf-0008F5-FX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:26:31 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DAcPf-0001OB-68 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:22:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DAcPe-0001O2-Ov for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:22:22 +0000 Received: from smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.195]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DAcPd-00005n-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:22:22 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@217.42.60.201 with login) by smtp805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 23:22:15 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:22:15 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.195 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btopenworld.com X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: PCR-1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dear Pat, Les, LF, I've been using the Icom PCR-1000 on LF for a few months, and it works pretty well with my inverted-L antenna. It tunes down to 137 kHz OK so you don't need a converter, but you do need a pre-amp/preselector to get the best from the radio and suppress any birdies. I have been using the design from G3YXM's webpage http://www.wireless.org.uk/circuits2.htm. (The one with the two Toko coils) The tuning is very stable and repeatable, the only slight drawback being that you can't fit any additional narrow CW filters. This is fine for most LF modes, ARGO etc, but if you need further filtering for audible CW, say, you can follow it with an audio filter or use a filter program such as Spectran. Set the radio to 135.500 kHz USB to view the entire LF band using Spectran. Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Les Thompson Sent: 12 March 2005 18:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC In article <15d.4c7d573a.2f647476@aol.com>, G4gvw@aol.com writes >Hi Les, >  >I was interested to see you are using a PCR1000. >  >I too have one of these Rx's and have not so far considered it for LF >as I have others in use. >  >Have you compared it with anything else? >  >Apart from selectivity of loop are you using any other preselection? >  >Regards Pat g4gvw Hello Pat I only have the PCR1000 and an IC-725 that will cover the 137KHz band. Between the two of them the PCR1000 is the more stable when it's been on for about half an hour, it seems to produce fewer birdies and there seems little difference in sensitivity. I did try an LF converter that a friend lent me but it didn't perform well with the loop, looked like an impedance mis-match as it was reasonably perky when fed with an end fed wire. No preselector or pre-amp, I only have the loop and when I want to watch the whole 2.1KHz spectrum I have to dampen the Q with a 560K carbon resistor, I was surprised at how sharp the tuning is. As Laurie said I really need to get something outside but I'm still trying different configurations of loop at the moment and it's easier to play with them indoors. I've never done anything other than briefly listen on LF before a few months ago and now know why I could never hear any activity having done a bit of reading and also monitoring this group for a short while. I got interested before Christmas when Walter DJ2LF started his 440KHz tests and then moved lower to see what I could hear. Looks like I've still got a lot to learn. 73 -- Les G8ARF / G3VYZ