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From: "Dave G3WCB" <ganymede444@btopenworld.com>
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:13:10 -0000
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Gary,=20

Your QRSS signal is clearly audible here at RST559.

Also audible are G3KEV QRSS and GW3UEP CW signals

73, Dave G3WWCB IO91RM

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT
Sent: 03 January 2009 19:46
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: RE: LF: RE: Olivia 8 x 250 / psk31 / MFSK 8 503 CENTER BEACON -
RUNNING NOW - 1615 HRS


Andy,

>>>>>>>> Anyway, it looks as if
QRSS would co-exist inside the tone spread.

I am just about to do that.

Gary - G4WGT.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] On Behalf Of Andy Talbot
Sent: 03 January 2009 19:22
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Olivia 8 x 250 / psk31 / MFSK 8 503 CENTER BEACON - RUN=
NING NOW - 1615 HRS

I didn't say that. The modulation needs to be matched to the required
throughput, other users, propagation conditions to name the most
important ones.  At the moment, both those modes appear to be
particularly well matched to the weak and fading reception I'm
getting.    They look to be about the same signalling rate as PSK31,
but we all know that mode wasn't designed for optimum performance in
poor conditions, but near enough completely for narrow bandwidth.

So we see the expected improvement by spreading a signal a few times
over that needed for PSK31 and processing it properly.    Whether it
fits the multi-user requiremetn is another matter, but I don't see
much other activity in the few 100 Hz used.  Anyway, it looks as if
QRSS woud co-exist inside the tone spread.


Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com



2009/1/3 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>:
> Most of it is GIBBIRISH and not suited to 500 khz. Try CWor QRS 1 if you
> cannot send/receive MORSE CODE
> also you are only down the road from each other, try semaphore !!!!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.co=
m>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Olivia 8 x 250 / psk31 / MFSK 8 503 CENTER BEACON -
> RUNNING NOW - 1615 HRS
>
>
>> A sudden enhancement and just got some simultaneous copy :
>>
>> OLIVIA :
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>> 8
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>> gnbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...q;d  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd  kkk IR/p& Y%}1)#rW9~
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>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0
>>
>>
>> MFSK8
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Pttst   CQ CQ CQ
>> DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd  kkk rBt=C3=B28e=C3=A6 t=C2=B6=C2=ADknm=
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 ielsaa nu 0 mPn=C3=BA=C3=BFK
>> =C2=B3S=C2=A2 iwX=C3=A4tl CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd  kkk x p=C3=A2pg H Jant0n9=C2=A8j=C2=
=B7eoet n
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>> a=C2=B1 rotet a=C3=9C Foe2_vl=C2=A7ms=C3=AD t=C3=8Ck  t=3D l=C3=85 edCQ C=
Q CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd
>> CQ CQ CQ DE...g0nbd  g0nbd  g0nbd  kkk ohixe J =C2=AB=C3=B2ee
>> nFaEtuFvBoztnzotNSoy Je{v0u=3Dtedzqhdfdelie nU
>>
>>
>>
>> Initially it looked as if Olivia was the more robust of the two, but a
>> bit uncertain now.   MSFK-8 seems to be doing a better job.
>>
>> Poor signal here in IO90, only occasional copy.
>>
>>
>> Andy  G4JNT
>> www.g4jnt.com
>>
>
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