X-GM-THRID: 1236540073696148228 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs15376hue; Tue, 15 May 2007 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.220.12 with SMTP id s12mr6175463ugg.1179256510074; Tue, 15 May 2007 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 39si13378472ugb.2007.05.15.12.15.07; Tue, 15 May 2007 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ho2Ov-00056G-6J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:37 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ho2Ot-000567-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:35 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ho2Os-00064W-Q3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 79698 invoked from network); 15 May 2007 19:09:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=aUFjM+TQ28wcoPh7bc+Y8eDx67GEjOn9oWIgHtJ2TPYR482BfL7dqyIFZ/8nNVEIuMmsHpP+RF+14H9PqJRfCHIEkpXahIQZKU4ui07ls9G9MMLbHYXxKKx3nfRhovNXVe5lMu8+1oigVLP2UuW+RTjIfx8j6hI6ZH4rsqGdR4A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.157.27.132 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2007 19:09:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Sfba1QMVM1n2A5wHPrsyADgipYBSBCcMu05bSB3bu435XH3H From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <002001c7967b$bf365020$0300a8c0@lark> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: LF: RE: Re: [500] Dead Band? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1721 Hi Alan, LF, Don't think my set-up is capable of putting that sort of signal your way. I was running an estimated 50 mW erp or less, but I'm happy to repeat the experiment! Last night I was listening to GW3UEP beacon transmission, and he was barely visible on Spectran at about 1930 utc, becoming clearly visible/audible by about 2200 utc, but with deep QSB. I get the same effect with GI4DPE. What sort of propagation are we seeing here...ground wave giving way to sky wave? At these sort of frequencies, do we get E-layer reflection, or is the propagation mode more similar to what happens on 137 kHz? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: 14 May 2007 23:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: [500] Dead Band? Hi Dave It that was you, you were obscenely strong here :-)) no-one should be allowed to be that strong with 100mW !! it was 40dB above the nose here.....not many get that high on 500k. Yes I dont think the "static" travels quite so far or so well as on 136, the nearest was south-western France of the eastern German boarder....more attenuation in daylight as well. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave G3WCB To: Sent: 14 May 2007 21:01 Subject: LF: [500] Dead Band? > Ah, sorry.. That was probably me! > > I spent the week-end listening on 137 kHz, and have just re-set my antenna > for this band. 137 kHz was pretty much wiped out because of high static > levels. Strangely, 500 kHz seems to be affected less by T-storm static than > 137 kHz. > > 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia > Sent: 14 May 2007 19:53 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: Dead Band? > > > There is a strong carrier on 503.33 I think it must be G3UNT from the > strength. > > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: 14 May 2007 19:36 > Subject: LF: Dead Band? > > > > > > I am calling CQ just below 502. Not a sausage around tonight apart from > > G3YVF testing his loft antenna for 502! > > > > Anybody around tonight? > > > > > > > > G3VTT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >