X-GM-THRID: 1208101417276984948 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 447ab7b0097ddc45c23ccf58fa936ff3c5e59a6e Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs139518qbh; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 14:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.37.10 with SMTP id p10mr4279092nfj; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si7435803nfa.2006.07.05.14.34.52; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FyEzF-00033v-NO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:32:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FyEzF-00033m-AT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:32:45 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyEzC-0006eB-A2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:32:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 28241 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2006 21:32:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.127.243 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2006 21:32:32 -0000 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:33:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <001501c6a077$3ecccf40$d80c7ad5@w4o8m9> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.977,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: LF loading coils Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4921 Dear Gary, LF. I have just finished rewinding my loading coil. The original 3.2mH coil was wound with 150 turns of 2.5mm cross-sectional area pvc covered solid copper wire,(i.e. mains cable inner) The coil is 300mm dia and 500mm high, and the antenna is a "Tee" at 6m with a 60m top. The antenna capacity to ground is about 390 pF. I rewound it with Litz wire of about the same cross-sectional area, and got an antenna current increase of 15%. Not much, but every little helps. I haven't tried a short, fat loading coil yet, but the indications are that short fat coils have lower losses. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 05 July 2006 22:09 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: LF loading coils Dear Gary, LF group, ...But there is another justification for making a high-Q loading coil, and that is power dissipation. If you are trying to run 1kW into a small antenna, it isn't hard to end up with a few hundred watts dissipated in the loading coil if this has mediocre Q. This would only reduce the radiated signal by about 1dB or so compared to a perfect, zero-loss loading coil, but it would certainly make the coil get warm! A big, high Q coil dissipates less power in the first place, and has more surface area to dissipate the heat, too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary - G4WGT To: Cc: LW Wave Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: LF loading coils > Hi Alan & Steve, > > You made almost identical comments. > ***************** > > So I will give that idea a "MISS" > > Thanks to you both for your comments. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > >