Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:28:19 +0100 Received: from pih-spamcore04.plus.net ([192.168.71.8]) by pih-mxcore11.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DTl59-00071n-L5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:28:19 +0100 Received: from Debian-exim by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (Exim 4.50) id 1DTl58-0000Ko-Q0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:28:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.4] (helo=ptb-mxcore04.plus.net) by pih-spamcore04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DTl58-0000Kl-NE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:28:18 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v1.0) id 1DTl88-00011j-Eu for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:31:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DTl4e-0006gk-B4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:27:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DTl4d-0006gb-T1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:27:47 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.47]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTl4d-0003mg-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:27:47 +0100 Received: from dsl-80-43-29-6.access.as9105.com ([80.43.29.6]:2627 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DTl4Y-000Luf-2U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 18:27:42 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:28:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001201c55170$659b7100$8cccfc3e@l8p8y6> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.74.114.47 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tiscali.co.uk Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re : tests. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v4.00s) Hi Mal, It was a while ago I sent that e-mail & still havn't got round to sorting the 136 antenna although I am part way there as I have started constructing a 5 spoke spiral (larger diameter than the previous 4 spoke spiral) so as to be able to "basket weave" the spiral. I did some experiments in a smaller test format & found that there was more inductance with basket weave arrangement over the double spiral when using the same amount of wire. It is true about the dummy load versus antenna situation but it did enable me to bench test the modified PA first. Jim's phase meter is an excellent device for LF & as Jim pointed out it can be used at the transmitter or antenna end without any differences in readings so it is great for setting up the tuning remotely from the shack (I have my variometer motorised). By the way Mal, I did modify my LF antenna loading coil in the way you suggested some while ago & was able to get a very good match. I don't have any spare diodes, I purchased my BAT85's from CPC Plc in Preston (part of the Farnell Group) so you should be able to get the BAT85's over your side of Pennines from Farnell (they were 27 pence each). I have recently been stripping out the bathroom & I am almost finished tiling & refitting (it's been 20 years since that room was touched) so I hope soon to be able to devote more time to the hobby. Regards, Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of hamilton mal Sent: 05 May 2005 13:45 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Re : tests. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: Re : tests. > Hi Mal & LF, > > I am using the G0MRF 300 watt Tx but since blowing several PA mosfets I > decided to carry out the M0BMU PA mods using the original toroid & I can now > run a cool PA up to 650 watts into dummy load bench testing. I put it on air > into antenna & started with 280 watts & on following tests gradually > increased to 420 watts (still cool) with antenna current up to 2.3 Amps it > was at this time I got corona/arcing on the spiral top load so I stopped > tests until I have the time to lower the mast & carry out a visual > inspection of the area of arcing so as to effect a cure. I suspect that I > may have too little clearance between the spiral & the metal fixing > hardware, an inspection will be carried when work & family permit. > > Regards, > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp > Hi Gary. I have found soak testing into a dummy load different to loading into the resonant antenna. The antenna is more critical and tricky and seems more of a problem using high voltage low current than low voltage high current. I built my tx a few years ago when 136 khz became available, it was the low V type and it worked well over the years but recently tried different hi spec FETS 23A/600V. I ran it up to 50v at 20a but it does not appear to be as stable as the low voltage tx. I think others might have experienced this also. How does the phase meter work that you built. I have a couple of nice meters here that would be suitable and hope to build one. One thing I do need are some diodes. If you have any spare from your project and want to sell a few let me know. I have everything else. 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > >