X-GM-THRID: 1211086721341453846 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 9257082b3b8f1dba03b13e7a9d0983d8197d0b08 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs217720qbh; Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr9041012nfi; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22si6400179nfc.2006.08.07.13.25.00; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GABVk-00023l-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:15:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GABVk-00023c-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:15:40 +0100 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GABVh-000539-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:15:40 +0100 Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.106.110.155]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2006 21:12:33 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAIc510SKZg Received: from 88-106-110-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.106.110.155]:2505 helo=tcs01) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GABRn-000IMn-8B; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:11:35 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "Alan Melia" Cc: "LF \(Rsgb LF Group\)" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:13:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001101c6b9a2$a7fc2d00$0300a8c0@lark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.088,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: RE: re PA FET Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6971 Hi Alan & LF, I have repaired the PA tonight & during the afternoon I had a look in the antenna coil box etc, what I found was obviously the cause of the failure. Possibly due to the hot weather the top of my loading coil container had sagged & during the recent rain (yesterday) the indent had filled with water causing a small pool. The other contributing factor was that I must have disturbed the feeder to the vertical at the top of the coil & it was almost touching the inside top of the plastic coil box so it had been arcing at that point to the pool of water & eventually caused the demise of the PA. The PA last night was running 38 volts at 11 Amps for about 400 watts, the SWR was virtually 1:1 & no indications of any problem were seen when periodically checked. I have now corrected the container problem with a plastic support inside pushing the top upward in a dome so no water will lodge & re-connected & re-dressed the feeder wire. I am going to run some tests & check the coil again whilst live. I have also sent a copy of this mail to LF to keep others informed. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia [mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com] Sent: 06 August 2006 22:53 To: Gary - G4WGT Subject: re PA FET Hi Gary Yes sorry to hear about the FETs and with no heating of the heat sink. That suggest either a change in antenna tuning, a flash-over of an insulator, or maybe a instant of overlapped drive. I guess the FET got a high voltage....I wonder what you rating is an how big a margin you have, with the supply voltage you are running. As far as I can make out the min FET voltage is 4 times the supply voltage, but a mistune can easily exceed even that. Have a look round the outside for distressed components in daylight. I did a quick look at Geoclock and Singapore has quite a good darkness band I estimated 1930 to 2300z should be possible. Shanghi Is more difficult the window is only about 1 Hour at present 2130 to 2230z. It will get better of course from now on into the autumn. Cheers de Alan G3NYK