Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.143]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME041-8bac4bc9f3401d3; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:43:28 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 081BA380000F2; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1O3C1u-0000Ow-Hn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:42:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1O3C1u-0000On-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:42:06 +0100 Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([66.196.96.84]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O3C1s-0002gH-E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:42:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 65451 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2010 17:41:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Importance:X-MimeOLE; b=fEFBCGLXdt4RswmM3jQ8uzDDneMVGxtWQMtO4xvx1tlqzZpqVzNbPzXjks1DpYhjkNc78u7Qn6dyDYuV3pgKo/pmtDSe9mtT4iunc0KPE3+26hfGSTS/4Ct/XOhqprOvXrUxrmFmz9n2BffPXF8f5NGPlwDrHigXcu6WODJ/7cs= ; Received: from MAINDESK (paulc@75.58.180.90 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2010 10:41:57 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: .XXmOBOswBCkuxW404eTLsnd.RdCQPge3WAF X-YMail-OSG: 4YvFW.UVM1nf07DAN6y13bwFoawIwMuNu8SzXCwCmWGUo8tDxsZPUCSaagr3iBlJLc8xLq0iMvIYTDdVWZO47Yz0c8OjfIKXZeY5zkggrppoOt2UWU7pJxAJUFO6Hicupb34vOtJfSpu_ciLrXOLbbs.VRD6TKwE3zIL8QAUjM_sIityEOYJN8OyAdt5ikdlw7UUEryaxby9FJPlL3i1gsL2zq184i.mSuKAc5Me6tZFQxXNl3xNHW.GzFhxjKglv64qG9qbfKrKigfgvnmjknUcGteWklACEiwFmeWX_UxazTQYxB4_ZOpXNLdL7p0WKJo8Wgx7JBGyWW6OE18UdpzyeNEz.uUO13a_hs6rP4fDaSbnOSz4qPTLXapEbgd1Y8rlDIgB.GZCzdEPFOe2rA4zCFZbHBbm0c3VgwKxyCl8njT7d4sYrTZ9egpjtK5XMLk.fYyIvPvW2sEwYq2_CRVUyOCbLtv5is6Hk15qaEC.z0dqZA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Paul A. Cianciolo" To: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <201004171901050910.0CCBE6CC@smtp2.numeo.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: Dreamers Band update from W1VLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408f4bc9f33d6789 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 John, Yes.. I do fid that interesting! Do you have anymore detail on how you are making this observation?? PauLC W1VLF -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John RABSON Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: Dreamers Band update from W1VLF On 17/04/2010 at 09:53 Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: >Currently I am using 3 2 meter ground rods spaced 2 meters apart and 1 >meter distant from the concrete basement wall of my shack. You may find this of interest. We have found at 87 kHz (cave radio frequency) that you do not get the full benefit of multiple ground rods unless they are spaced by at least twice their depth. In your case this would need to be 2 m or more. John F5VLF