Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29814 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 20:21:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 20:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 11721 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 20:21:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 20:21:52 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VehX-0003HJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:17:55 +0000 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.22] helo=hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VehV-0003HE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:17:54 +0000 Received: from sdn-ar-006florlap336.dialsprint.net ([158.252.71.242] helo=kd4wov) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vegf-0000PU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:17:02 -0800 From: "Tom Tishken KD4WOV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: Tesla Coil as an antenna Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:13:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020129153852.00b06cd8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Yes, keeping the sparks from flying is one major concern i was having. I had a primary coil that resonated very well at 138 KHz, but I never finished making a secondary coil. Other than a Large globe atop a large secondary coil, has anyone else found a way to keep it from arcing? Second question, should we try to drive it with high voltage (400 to 1200 volts and very little current) or should we drive it with low voltage (12 to 24 volts and 10 to 40 amps). The primary coil I was using would withstand 12 volts and 30 amps, I cooked it when I went to 37 amps. Third question, For all you LF antenna guru's. should I use stranded or solid copper, steel, or aluminum wire. I know each one has good and bad, but what have you all had better luck with? I have thought about keeping the primary coil in mineral oil for heat dissipation, any suggestions about cooling of the primary? What do you all use to keep your LF antennas cool? -----Original Message----- From: majordom@post.thorcom.com [mailto:majordom@post.thorcom.com]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:05 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Tesla Coil as an antenna At 09:14 29/01/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > I have not experimented in a while with my partially built tesla coil, but >has anyone used their Tesla coil as an antenna for ELF or other Freqs? If we >try to use it for 137 KHz how do you determine ERP? Dear Tom, LF group, Well, occasionally I have inadvertently used my LF antenna as a Tesla coil :-) But seriously, The Tesla coil is essentially a helical antenna (see ON7YD's LF antenna web pages http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm ). So if it is several metres tall, and you can persuade it to resonate on 136kHz, it might make a usable LFantenna. Of course, you would want to avoid the discharges that occur in the normal Tesla coil mode of operation, since these generate QRM and absorb lots of RF power. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU