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To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi David, Can you describe your tx and drawings of your antenna pls Greetz Dirk Pe0PCD Rotterdam Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Markus Vester Verzonden: zaterdag 10 februari 2018 12:56:26 Aan: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna? [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dzuyd[at]hotmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 09c1a181dc7b5fd4ce37590584a561d1 Subject: LF: Re: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_HE1PR0502MB30045EE32BC3F65377840C68B9F10HE1PR0502MB3004_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_HE1PR0502MB30045EE32BC3F65377840C68B9F10HE1PR0502MB3004_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David, Can you describe your tx and drawings of your antenna pls Greetz Dirk Pe0PCD Rotterdam ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Markus Vester Verzonden: zaterdag 10 februari 2018 12:56:26 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna? Hi Tom, David, I'm not aware of a functional "Tesla Antenna" concept. The mentioning of th= e Kiruna site suggests that those low frequency carriers might be have been= created by ionospheric heating, where a powerful AM-modulated HF transmitt= er is used to modulate the ionospheric conductivity. In analogy to the "Lux= embourg effect" where the modulation is transferred to other MF or LF signa= ls, they can also generate detectable ELF emissions by deflecting the DC po= lar electrojet current. Similar experiments have been reported by the HAARP= facility (Gakona AK), and the method has been suggested as a means to comm= unicate to deeply submerged submarines. 73, Markus, DF6NM -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: DK1IS An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Sa, 10. Feb 2018 0:36 Betreff: Re: LF: Russian Alphas not QRT but QRP ? Hi David, most interesting! - Could you give some more information about QTH, TX and = "Tesla" antenna? Tu es 73, Tom, DK1IS Am 09.02.2018 um 21:44 schrieb David Hine: Hi, I do transmitting on ELF occasionally on a frequency of 1.6 Hz using a = 'Tesla' antenna, giving a global range (screenshot example from Kiruna, Swe= den, attached). It is likely to be a 'QSB' fade out, and at ELF, these can = last for many days. I have noticed this often on my transmitted ELF signals= , with a 2 week QSB period being the average. Kind regards, David ________________________________ --_000_HE1PR0502MB30045EE32BC3F65377840C68B9F10HE1PR0502MB3004_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David,

Can you describe your tx and drawings of your antenna pls

Greetz  Dirk  Pe0PCD  Rotterdam 
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> namens Markus Veste= r <markusvester@aol.com>
Verzonden: zaterdag 10 februari 2018 12:56:26
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna?
 
Hi Tom, David,

I'm not aware of a functional "Tesla Antenna" concept. The mentio= ning of the Kiruna site suggests that those low frequency carriers might be= have been created by ionospheric heating, where a powerful AM-modulat= ed HF transmitter is used to modulate the ionospheric conductivity. In analogy to the "Luxembourg effect" where t= he modulation is transferred to other MF or LF signals, they can also = generate detectable ELF emissions by deflecting the DC polar electrojet cur= rent. Similar experiments have been reported by the HAARP facility (Gakona AK), and the method has been suggest= ed as a means to communicate to deeply submerged submarines.

73,
Markus, DF6NM



-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: DK1IS <DK1IS@kabelmail.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 10. Feb 2018 0:36
Betreff: Re: LF: Russian Alphas not QRT but QRP ?

Hi David,

most interesting! - Could you give some more information about QTH, TX and = "Tesla" antenna?

Tu es 73,
Tom, DK1IS

Am 09.02.2018 um 21:44 schrieb David Hine:
Hi, = I do transmitting on ELF occasionally on a frequency of 1.6 Hz using a 'Tes= la' antenna, giving a global range (screenshot example from Kiruna, Sweden,= attached). It is likely to be a 'QSB' fade out, and at ELF, these can last for many days. I have noticed this of= ten on my transmitted ELF signals, with a 2 week QSB period being the avera= ge.
Kind= regards, David



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