Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23605 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1999 13:57:44 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 1999 13:57:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 23574 invoked from network); 14 Nov 1999 14:07:30 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Nov 1999 14:07:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11mzyZ-0008Dw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:45:51 +0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11mzyY-0008Dr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:45:50 +0000 Received: from dennison.demon.co.uk ([194.222.239.33]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11mzyR-000Nyq-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:45:44 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:44:31 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Mike Dennison" Subject: LF: sky/ground wave In-reply-to: <000101bf2e70$c6c86560$bb7f8cd4@dave> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >>From Dave G3YMC > >2. Propagation. Mike Dennison says that the Greek RTTY is weak or inaudible >during the day. This was the case here during the summer, but now winter is >approaching it is copyable throughout the day, often at very good signals. It >seems to get stronger from mid afternoon onwards, but is never less than S7 at >any time (and of course way over S9 at night). It is currently (Saturday 1500) >s8 and perfectly readable through the thunder crashes. > Agreed. >Mike says there is little groundwave at HF - yes, but propagation seems to be >quite similar to top band propagation, where there is most definitely both >ground and sky wave. On Top Band during the winter it is quite common to start >hearing eastern Europeans from around 1500z in the winter, with some days >signals being much stronger that others. The patterns I am seeing on 136 follow >very much the same pattern as that band, and the experiences with CFH earlier in >the year (with its very rapid fade after sunrise) seem to further support this >view. On this basis the optimum time for transatlantic propogation will be at >dawn (0600-0800) in December and January. > True, but Andre suggests that EU broadcasters come in best at US sunset (our midnight). -- Mike, G3XDV IO91VT http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm