Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t0D0uOYx030732 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 01:56:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YApgC-0003wc-LY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:49:56 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YApgC-0003wT-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:49:56 +0000 Received: from rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.183]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YApft-0004lV-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:49:54 +0000 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090205.54B46B9F.00B5,ss=1,re=0.001,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=38/50,refid=2.7.2:2015.1.12.164519:17:38.936,ip=81.156.247.21,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, LINK_TO_IMAGE, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_TV, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[21.247.156.81.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, REFERENCES X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (81.156.247.21) by rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 54B3AD78001A6380 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:49:35 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1421110177; bh=NQ13VjjK/yqeMINVFj4kmliWhHIeWcnnQtCY/klSTns=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=LjNP9VWWViHW1jUh3ClhWwxG0J4MWJQ8AZBDj6oh8LMEZILjBvm/ubjXRPH4lvqSNnmDmpYZaVVJwtVNkyZLNwv73CyEJvF1aMFtsGoFy/YOHipjCAte8qEKqZ5rnqOjBiY3v7PKQvTbjLKuRdqQ+pxT8Zu2w0T3boClG169p9c= Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <3E493C075A3040DD8909A368EA72B512@gnat> <54B46013.9020301@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:49:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: d7fcd9b75df8d1b09ddef9df028bd9ae Subject: Re: LF: Eclipse March 20th 2015 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1967 Hi Stefan its not about super propagation it is about changes, or not as may be the case. I suspect if you are not in a location where the totality is the centre of the path you will not see much. The other thing is it is a completely different effect to sunrise and sunset. As you said once or twice before if you dont try you never know :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "DK7FC" <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:00 AM Subject: Re: LF: Eclipse March 20th 2015 > Hmm, the grabber is run by TF3HZ who is probably reading this mail. But > you can reach his grabber without super propagation as well, at least from > EU on LF, like shown here: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/LF/TF3HZ.jpg > > He is even running a SNR plot which could be used to show QSB. I could run > a key-down carrier with reduced power to show the QSB... Let's see... > March is still some time... > > 73, Stefan > > Am 12.01.2015 16:37, schrieb Alan Melia: >> Hi all, it may not have registered with many yet as it has not made the >> National TV news but there is a partial eclipse of the sun due on March >> 20th 2015. >> >> As part of my involvement with the RSGB Propagation Studies Committee it >> occurs to me that this is a fine opportunity to roll out the capabilities >> of Opera, and WSPR and the monitoring network on 136 and 477kHz. >> >> The path of the totallity pases due north of the UK with only Shetland >> seeing a full eclipse. The majority of the UK is rated around 80% . The >> most interesting paths are those from the opposite side of the path of >> totality. Unfortunately (or otherwise :-)) ) the only LF-active area on >> the other side is Iceland, and I know there is a "grabber" operator >> active there. I suggest some interesting results could be obtained if >> European stations could be active into the Iceland grabber during the >> period of the eclipse which is 07:40 to 11:40 UTC (I think we should be >> on GMT still in the UK at that date :-)) ) I am not fully sure what >> facilities the Icelandic operator has but maybe someone who knows him >> better could liaise a suitable set up. >> >> It is obviouly not as big an event as 1999 but could prove interesting. >> >> Alan Melia >> G3NYK >> >> >> >> >> >> >